John, just took the carferry from Ludington to Manitowac in June. Reservations have to be made to take this ferry with rates being approx. $40 per person and per car. The trip is 4 hours. It was quite nice. Reservations are a must especially with a group like this.

You have given many good ideas. You can't even walk on the porch of the Grand on Mackinaw without paying a fee. Not surprised about the dress requirements. Hope HL finds a good place. We've missed the last 2 because we couldn't change plans already made - really hope and want to attend the next.

Kathy