Yo John - you use IE4.0X and the outline always starts out extended. But when you click on the category, the subcategory collapses.

Seems like there must be a way to tell the outline to start out collapsed.

But if the outline doesn't work for the Netscape users, then let's figure something else out. You're smart, you can do it, John.

John [Talking to myself again - normally not unusual, but writing... oh, man]