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Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73361 12/02/02 11:49 PM
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A question has arisen about the countries of origin of these early Harbour Lights.

The history states there were 266 made of the original 102 Cape Hatteras - all made in Southern California.

When excessive breakage was found in shipments, the piece was resculpted into the more substantial 102R Cape Hatteras (on the left below.)



If you own a CH102R, please indicate the edition number and the country of origin and how you know the country of origin ("Made in sticker..")Possible countries of origin should be Canada or Malaysia.

Please indicate also the color of the 'felt' on the bottom of the piece. Possible choices should be gray or green. If green, and the piece was made in Canada, it's possible that the bottom is 'flocked' and there is a 1/4" to 1/2" border around the bottom that is not flocked (right in photo below.)



If the color of the felt is gray, is it the light gray or dark gray?



Also indicate whether the stripe that begins over the entry door is black or white.



Please answer these 6 questions about your 102R Cape Hatteras NC

1. Edition # (Serial #)
2. Country of origin
3. How you know that? (Label?)
4. Flocked or felt bottom
5. Color of felt or flocking on bottom
6. White or black stripe begins over door

Thanks,

John

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73362 12/02/02 11:54 PM
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1. #2039
2. Malaysia
3. made in sticker
4. felt
5. green
6. black


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4. Felt
5. Green
6. Black


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Malaysia
Made in sticker
felt
green
black

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73365 12/03/02 11:55 PM
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2. Canada
3. Made in Canada sticker
4. Felt
5. Green
6. Black

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73366 12/05/02 09:59 PM
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1 - 2867
2 - Canada
3 - white label/red print 'MADE IN CANADA' - no Maple Leaf
4 - felt w/ 1/4 inch edge
5 - green
6 - black


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Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73367 12/05/02 10:13 PM
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4) flocked with 1/4" edge
5) green
6) black (still looking for a white one!)

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73368 12/05/02 10:53 PM
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1) 5076
2) Malaysia
3) made in sticker
4) felt
5) green
6) black

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73369 12/06/02 01:01 AM
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Malaysia
made in sticker
felt
green
black

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2. Malaysia
3. made in sticker
4. felt
5. green
6. black

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73372 12/06/02 10:34 AM
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2. Canada
3. Made in sticker
4. Felt
5. Dark gray w/1/4" border
6. Black


Rich
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Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73374 12/06/02 04:42 PM
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You would ask this question when my HL102R is buried behind 100 other HL's in my basement.

Answers:

1. Edition # somewhere in the high numbers
2. Made in Malaysia
3. Sticker on the felt
4. Green
5. Black

smile Bob smile

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73375 12/06/02 06:25 PM
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2. Canada
3. Label
4. Flocked with 1/4 inch
5. Green
6. Black

Why the interest, John? smile

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73376 12/06/02 10:20 PM
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Why the interest?...
Someone contacted me to correct the statement at www.HarbourLights.com/ to the effect that all the mainder of 102R were made in Canada. I was trying to get an idea of where the break in production is between Canada and Malaysia.

It does not appear to be a definitive number. The lowest Malaysian so far is 2039, but there are Canadians with higher numbers 2163, 2867, 3147.

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73377 12/11/02 01:34 AM
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One of each:
1) #3512 1) #706
2) Canada 2) Canada
3)Made in Sticker 3) Made in sticker
4)felt 1/4 inch 4) felt 1/4 inch
5)green 5) green
6)black 6) white

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2. Canada
3. Made in sticker
4. Flocked with 1/4 inch
5. Green
6. Black

Kathy

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3. round gold sticker
4. felt
5. green
6. black

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Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73380 12/13/02 03:23 AM
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2. Malaysia
3. made in sticker
4. felt
5. green
6. black

FYI: This one has the Shellac dip antiquing to give it the rustic look.


DANIEL
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Quote:
FYI: This one has the Shellac dip antiquing to give it the rustic look.
I never heard of that before, Daniel. Exactly what was done to your HL102R? Can you post a picture?

smile Bob smile

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73382 12/13/02 07:21 PM
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2. Made in Canada
3. White and red sticker
4. flocked with ~ 1/4 " border
5. green
6. black stripe over door

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Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73384 12/14/02 11:35 AM
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As you probally know, On the early HL's a painting procedure was used called "Antiquing". The idea of this was to give the lighthouse an old weathered appearance. The early Admiralty Heads had black specks scattered over it and some of The Hatteras was given a dirty appearance.

One of ways of Antiquing the Hatteras was diping them into a Shellac. This would put a yellowing (dirty) cast on them. Mine has a yellowish cast on all the flat parts of the base.
I will try to take a picture as soon as I can figure out how to make my Flash card reader work.


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Thanks for the info, Dan. I had never heard about that before. That process was definitely not done to mine. My HL102R looks like it's brand new.

smile Bob smile

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6. black stripe over door

Re: Do You Own a 102R Cape Hatteras? #73387 12/14/02 06:27 PM
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Dont own one but wish I did. Lets see what santa brings this year laugh laugh laugh

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5. Gray (light) with 1/4 inch edge
6. Balck stripe over door

Bill

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102R
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Malaysia
Sticker on bottom
Felt Green
Black over door


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