When I edit a post from my desktop at home, all the html code that I've written shows up, as typed. All UBB code I entered is converted to the corresponding html when re-displayed in the edit mode.

When I edit a post on my laptop, the code (html and UBB) all disappears. If I submit an edited message from the laptop, the code is no longer in effect -- everything appears as if the code was never entered (unless I type it in again before submitting.)

How does everyone else experience editing sessions?

Does this perhaps have something to do with Cruise Director cookies on my desktop that do not exist on my laptop?

It's hard to create a post at 3:00 a.m. on the road that does not need editing!

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-Art

The Forum software parser translates your code into the format it wants to use.

Or are you saying your messages no longer display formatted with UBB &/or HTML?

Rgds,
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/im

I think it's cookie-related. I noticed you were a WACKO on this morning's post, but not a Saint. Could be, but don't know, that the number of posts is not just stored with your membership information, but also in your hard drive.

I've had same problem as Art. Edit and the formatting goes. For this reason there are some posts with poor spelling (late hours, like Art) or missing words and the like that I don't edit if they have any embedded code. I have to go back in & re-insert all coding.

On the subject of cookies - I have my IE set to ask whether or not I will accept a cookie from someone. I will allow from sites I know/trust. I have gathered from various things around this site that cookies are used, but the software must not attempt to send if it detects cookies may not be accepted? I would accept cookies from here, but have never been asked. Implies never tried to transmit them?¿?

Dave

Try setting cookies to "Always Ask", then close IE and restart. I think you'll be asked several times in these forums.

One other possibility - if you are viewing the Forums in a frame window, perhaps the cookie doesn't work the same. Tim?

Cookies just store your preferences and information about your current session (when you last logged on, etc.)

I don't think these issues are related to cookies - they're pretty benign.

Hang on ... let me try an experiment

OK - back - now in the edit window. The HTML I just used on the above line is intact as I typed it.

I would like to learn if user supplied formatting simply disappears altogether or if it gets processed by the forum parser. Can someone who believes there is an issue, please check this and let me know their findings. Thanks.

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Tim,

The formatting disappears altogether. No previous formats appear in the editing window. The posted message no longer appears formatted after editing. However, the same message *can* be edited on my desktop without losing formats. Definately machine-related.

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-Art

Isn't it more likely a Browser issue? Art -- same version of browser on both? Settings all the same?

Yes, John.

By "machine" I left it open to be either hardware or software. Probably software if I had to guess (shoulda been a lawyer -- certainly ain't no programmer.)

Same version (4.0) of MSIE on both machines. I never knowingly adjusted any browser settings that would affect this on either machine, but never ran them side-by-side for a line-by-line comparison, either.

Any suggestions on where to look for settings that might affect this?

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-Art

Art, on MSIE 4.0, go to "edit", then "internet options" than "advanced settings" just to compare the two. Not for sure anything there would really effect it though, unless somehow the Java settings has something to do with it.(clueless)

Tim,
Since the cookies tell your computer to insert your name and password into the "post" or "edit" form automatically when you open up a form (if your "preference" settings are set to remember you), than couldn't the cookies somehow effect the form in other ways also? The post form action is usually set to have HTML "on", can a cookie effect this that it somehow is turning The "HTML on" to "off" when the editing window opens, before submitting it? (clueless again, but grinning more)

Has anyone else noticed, or is it just me? All of the Cruise Directors are now listed as Wacko's. Is it this way on anyone else's computer, or is it just mine? I've tried both of my computers and it is the same on both.

Just wondering,

-Todd

Todd,

I see myself as a Wacko. You can take that any way you like .

Regarding the cookie monster, the mystery is not yet solved, but the problem is. I downloaded MSIE 5.0 today onto my laptop (desktop will need to wait until I get back home.) I can now edit a message without loosing my html code. Go figure.

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-Art

btw -- When the new version of the browser is loaded, all of the old cookies disappear. Everything local must be restored. So it could very well have been a cookie problem, right? I dunno.

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-Art

>>The post form action is usually set to have HTML "on", can a cookie effect this that it somehow is turning The "HTML on" to "off" when the editing window opens, before submitting it?<<

I don't think so. There's no evidence the forum software has a switch for this on a per message basis. Even if this was the case, what you'd see is HTML code in your message once its posted. But that's not what is happening - or at least not what I understand is happening. From Art's description it sounds like text is getting removed.

In many respects, Browsers are pretty dumb -when you're editing in your browser it doesn't know anything about the software thats running on the host machine(s). The web is asynchronous - once you're served up a page, your connection with the serving computer is severed. The message edit window doesn't know whether you're typing HTML or Chinese.

I'm inclined to think its something localized to Art's situation. Whether that's his new laptop or his experiencing this at 3:00AM - we'll probably never know.

My thoughts here are really just speculations - without being able to recreate the problem it becomes virtually impossible to diagnose. If anyone else experiences the Art Virus , let me know, and point me to the offending message.

Ars Longa Vita Brevis,
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When I just posted a message in the "Map Room" the UBB thing didn't work, like for bold and url's. Used to work, what happened?

Looks like they worked for me, Mombo - your links that is.

John, that's because Paul was kind enough to fix them. Didn't know my / from my \!