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Cleveland Lighthouse #23603 04/04/00 09:02 PM
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I would love to see HL add the "Cleveland Lighthouse" to their "Gone But Not Forgotten" series.. This is a fantastic looking lighthouse that was unbelievably torn down. It was built in 1872, it had a 87 foot octagonal brick tower with two seperate residences with nearly 20 rooms! A picture of it can be seen on page 141 of the "Lost Lighthouses" book by Tim Harrison and Ray Jones.

If anyone knows where I can find a link to it on the internet, please let me know!

Rusty

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No luck searching for a link for Cleveland, but this one has the same lantern & lens. I mean exactly the same lantern & lens... they were relocated from the Cleveland station:

Braddock Point, courtesy of the USCG & Mombo, Lighthouse Sleuth

Braddock's keeper's quarters were not as nice, imo, as Cleveland Light Station's were.

I've asked for this one before:
http://www.lighthousekeepers.com/forums/Forum4/HTML/000080.html
http://www.lighthousekeepers.com/forums/Forum29/HTML/000013.html
http://www.lighthousekeepers.com/forums/Forum4/HTML/000134.html

It certainly doesn't hurt to keep asking!

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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23605 04/05/00 12:09 PM
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Art,
Sorry about not catching your earlier post on the Cleveland Lighthouse, and thanks for the links.. I agree it doesn't hurt to keep asking. That lens and latern is just perfect..

Rusty

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Yup,

Both of those (Cleveland & Braddock) are AWESOME!!!



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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23607 04/06/00 05:55 PM
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Here is an old archive photo of the light. I do not believe I have intruded on any copyright of such an old un-credited shot by posting it here, but I will just keep it on the forum for a week or so and then remove. Those who have not seen the light will at least have a moment to see what it looked like. This has to be one of the most beautiful lights (architecturally) I have ever seen.



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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23608 04/06/00 07:00 PM
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Quote:
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This has to be one of the most beautiful lights (architecturally) I have ever seen.


Really! Nice isn't it? Thanks for the photo.

Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23609 04/06/00 10:46 PM
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Rod is absolutely right -- Cleveland may well have been (architecturally) the most attractive light built in this country. What a stunning piece of work!! I happily second Rusty's recommendation that HL produce Cleveland Light as part of the Gone But Not Forgotten series, and the sooner the better.

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Excellent, Art! It sure ain't no plain jane!

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One interesting thing which I noticed is that the keeper's dwelling of the Cleveland Light for the most part is very similar to that of SE Block Island Light. Probably the same basic floor plan except with different towers.

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WOW! Thanks Rod for the pic. A little reminescent of SE Block Island in style.


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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23613 04/07/00 03:14 PM
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FWIW, the picture Rod posted above is of Braddock Point NOT Cleveland.

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Actually, the above photo is Cleveland Harbor Light, Lamar. Below is what Braddock Point Light looks like (as of 1998). Note the differences in the entry porch location, roof pitch, chimneys, sandstone detailing, and window detailing and arrangements, etc. The buildings also face the water with opposite facades. They are very close in design to one another, but I think the Cleveland Light is better proportioned and higher detailed than Braddock Point (although the other side of Braddock Point is the nicest side of the building...see Art's link).



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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23615 04/07/00 03:39 PM
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I would take either one of these made into HL's!! They are both awesome looking. Thanks Rod for the pictures.

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For those reading this thread who may not be aware, Rod Watson lives in the Cleveland area and his profession is an Architect.

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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23617 04/07/00 06:22 PM
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Rod,
Thanks so much for the picture.. That Latern is just spectacular! I just can't believe the people of Cleveland let this light get torn down. Maybe it wasn't that significant back then, but just breaks my heart that it is gone.. Also, I know Braddock Point is now a residence, but what happened to the latern?
It would be great to own a former lighthouse as a home, but their addition of a room to the tower, just doesn't hold a "candle" to the former latern... Does anyone know what happened to it?

Rusty

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Rusty,

Braddock Point's tower was so severly damaged from all the Lake Ontario storms through the decades, the Coast Guard had to remove the lantern room and 2/3's of the tower in 1954 before it would have toppled over from it's own weight. The fake lantern room was then added on.
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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23619 04/07/00 06:41 PM
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"Awsome"!! Both are architectural gems!! Thanks for posting the photos, Rod. I agree with you on the "detailing" on the Cleveland Harbour Lt. 'Love the pitch on that roof, as well. I guess there's no way of knowing if it had a slate roof or not....'probably did if it stuck with the Gothic tradition (in those days). Thanks again!!


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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23620 04/07/00 07:03 PM
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OK Moondogs, keep those pledges coming! HL does listen to our opinions here.

Ian Hunter knows: Cleveland Rocks!

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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23621 04/07/00 09:47 PM
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Great pictures Rod! I agree that HL should make this one ASAP! What a beautiful piece this would be! Only Harbour Lights could do this one justice! It would go right to the top of my favorite list! Maybe this would make some of the Cleveland jokes go away! (JUST KIDDING!)

Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23622 04/07/00 11:38 PM
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The more I compare the two, the more I prefer Braddock. It's tower was taller too, 110' vs. 87' for Cleveland but then it's in my state where Cleveland is in Arts!

Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23623 04/08/00 01:22 AM
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Art's Cleveland is about as famous for lighthouses and rock 'n' roll as John's Phoenix is.

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Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23624 04/08/00 03:07 AM
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Quote:
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Actually, the above photo is Cleveland Harbor Light, Lamar.


My mistake Rod, I'm wrong. I apologize. I have an old photo of Braddock Point with it's original tower and to my eyes it bears an extremely strong resembence to your old photo of Cleveland Harbor Light. They were both truly beautiful.

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Now if you compare the old photos of the two lights, Braddock is facing the water while in the Cleveland pic the water is to the right of the light as it is photographed. Not that it matters, just thought I'd mention it.

Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23626 05/08/00 12:54 AM
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Is there anyway to find out if HL will ever consider this lighthouse for their "Gone But Not Forgotten" series?

Rusty

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Rusty,
I am sure that the HL crew is well aware of the interest in a model of the Cleveland Light. Who knows how far down the road, but I'm sure it will show up. Maybe we need to "encourage" Jakers to make this his choice!
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Thought I would bring this one back to the top in my interest to keep this lighthouse in the eyes of HL. I have noticed that Lefton has now come out with a "Lost Lights" line (can't anyone get their own ideas)! Looks like they have been watching HL's web page. Anyway in their line of "Lost Lights" the Cleveland light is part of the line. It's nice, but nothing like Harbour Lights could do. I will wait for them..

I'll just keep knocking, and asking.

Rusty

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I am so glad you brought this back. I somehow missed it the first time around.

It truly saddens me that this magnificent lighthouse was torn down. It was a beauty. I would love to see HL's do it in the GBNF series. I think the tower is wonderful. Thank goodness we have pictures of the ones that are no longer standing.

Joanne

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Don't be concerned that HL hasn't given thought to producing Cleveland in the GBNF series. In a conversation with a well-placed HL staffer in Atlanta during the ICE, I was told they very much want to do it. The only holdup seems to be the absence of imagery (drawings or photos) of all sides of the structure from which they could develop an accurate model. And knowing how much they value accuracy, I'd say they'll look long & hard for images of all sides before producing it. Don't know what sources Lefton used to model their version. If nothing can be found, perhaps HL will use a bit of "artistic license" to complete the model.

Re: Cleveland Lighthouse #23631 07/05/00 09:59 AM
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Stan,

Thanks for the info! I do appreciate their concern for accuracy.

Rusty


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