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#209906 - 02/29/16 11:33 PM update on the Reef Lights (Florida)
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Registered: 04/27/03
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Loc: Orlando, Fl.
Hi all,
after waiting four years the government now figured out that 4 of the 5 remaining Reef Lights that have NOT been transferred are NOT in the state of Florida. I could have told them that years ago. Any how Sand Key is in the state and will be released by the NHLPA (National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act) and perhaps soon. The Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation long ago voted to apply for the remaining 5 (Fowey Rocks was in Biscayne National Park and they decided they wanted it at the last moment). We have raised funds to get anodes on the Fowey again (no sign of the old ones) and had a replacement tension rod made and installed. So the corrosion has been arrested for now.
By the way the other 4 are Sombrero Key, Alligator Reef, Carysfort Reef and American Shoal. For more info visit
www.reeflights.org
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#210108 - 06/08/16 01:20 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Sand Key lighthouse will be up this Summer. I am guessing July 1st.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#210229 - 07/16/16 01:16 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Recently we were approved by the Coast Guard to put anodes on Carysfort, Sombrero, Alligator and American Shoal. The contractor and myself will be taking a visit out to Carysfort this weekend to see how bad the barnacles and other growth are where we need to add the anodes and to take measurements. For those who don't know the anodes will prevent more corrosion of the cast iron (most of the lighthouse is cast iron or wrought iron.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#210239 - 07/17/16 06:00 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Thanks for the update Eric. Keep us posted. please.
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#210633 - 08/09/17 05:46 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Registered: 04/27/03
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Loc: Orlando, Fl.
Well last year I waited and waited only to find out one again no lighthouse was being released (Notice of Availability)....fast forward one year the NOA finally was done and the Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation has put in their notice of interest. That deadline has passed, but the GSA won't tell me if another group applied. Anyway the inspection is August 31st so I may learn more then. For more information please visit our website www.reeflights.org or just email me at ericlighthouse@yahoo.com or call
407-341-7374
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#210638 - 08/12/17 08:15 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Thanks for the update Eric! :)
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#210759 - 10/23/17 06:14 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Hi all, we are the only group applying for the lighthouse. But we must still convince the Government we can maintain the Sand Key lighthouse.
Susan and I have put up $1,000 in matching money for any donations up till midnight October 31. It is a dollar for dollar match.
Oh and Sand Key did survive the Hurricane.


Edited by ericlighthouse (10/23/17 06:15 PM)
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#210760 - 10/23/17 08:18 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Glad the light survived the hurricane. Hopefully the FKRLF will be awarded it by GSA and will be successful in your care for the light.

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#210761 - 10/25/17 08:37 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Good luck Eric. I know that noone cares more for those reef lights than FKRLF. I encourage all who can to join us in helping them to acquire the funds necessary to convince the GSA that they can restore the light.
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Roland Babineau
The only true Harbour Lights dealer left in the world and the ONLY retailer in the world authorized to sell Harry Hine's lighthouse collectible line!
http://www.thecapecodstore.com/harbor_lights.html

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#210872 - 01/12/18 07:06 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
Hi all,
finally got some good pictures of American Shoal and it HAS received damage. All the glass from the lantern room is gone and 2 panels of the roof are half gone.
I am checking with the Coast Guard and the Florida National Marine Sanctuary to see if they will let us do a temporary repair while they decide how to transfer this lighthouse and 3 others.
It is sad that we not have 3 lighthouse in really bad shape and Hurricane season is less than 6 months away.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#210873 - 01/12/18 07:07 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Loc: Orlando, Fl.
The pictures are on our facebook under Reef Lights.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211149 - 01/09/19 09:06 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Registered: 04/27/03
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Loc: Orlando, Fl.
The Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation is still waiting for an answer on Sand Key Lighthouse. We put in an application of more than 100 pages. The NPS had sent it up to the Secretary of the Department of Interior, however, he resigned December 31st and with the government shut down, who knows how long it will be.
NO repairs were made to American Shoal and they did NOT give us permission to make temporary repairs either. I was asking myself the other day, will there be anything to save once the government makes a decision. All but Fowey Rocks was suppose to be done in 2013. The other 4 are suppose to be up soon, but it looks like the government shut down is holding that up too.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211172 - 02/15/19 08:33 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Loc: Orlando, Fl.
Hi all,
the National Parks Service says we do NOT qualify...so far no reason why. Meanwhile Sand Key Lighthouse will soon be up for auction. Don't understand how the NPS can say we do not quality when they take structures and have no money for them and do not even start to preserve them. The only work on Fowey Rocks has been paid for by the F K R L F and F L A (Florida Lighthouse Association). I have asked what the minimum bid will be for the lighthouse with no house. Answer should be soon. I can not start to tell you how disappointed I am, they won't give us a shot!


Edited by ericlighthouse (02/16/19 03:41 PM)
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#211175 - 02/16/19 12:46 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Registered: 11/14/08
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Loc: South Dennis, MA/internet
Eric,
Nothing should surprise any of us when dealing with today's government departments. Not much is making sense these days, no matter which side of the aisle you're on...
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The only true Harbour Lights dealer left in the world and the ONLY retailer in the world authorized to sell Harry Hine's lighthouse collectible line!
http://www.thecapecodstore.com/harbor_lights.html

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#211176 - 02/16/19 03:44 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
You won't believe the work that goes into an application and then they sent back more questions, a statement that was NOT true and then make you wait almost a year to tell you do NOT qualify with no explanation.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211178 - 02/17/19 04:15 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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It would be fair to presume that if you do not meet some unknown qualifications that you would be told what they were. Kind of like double secret probation, I guess. Roland's earlier comments are certainly accurate.

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#211180 - 02/22/19 02:18 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
I have sent a second request to the National Parks Service. If I don't hear back by next week, I will call them.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211226 - 04/17/19 03:33 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Forgot to update earlier. They wrote back 2 things, one we did not have enough experience with NHLPA (National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act) lighthouses. To me experience is experience, seems like they could not come up with a real answer. Besides the Coast Guard would never let us on any of the reef lights and Biscayne National Park rejected our offer to remove lead paint from the keepers house, then fix it up. I am certified to handle lead paint by the State of Florida. The park preferred to wait for a grant to remove all of it, plus asbestos panel, but never got he money. Even then they said MAYBE we could work on the keepers house....so how do we get experience with NHLPA lighthouses??? All the south Florida lighthouses were transferred under other programs. Oh the employee also stated we were still NEW...18 years old folks, only one year newer than the law itself...such BULL.
So now we have to bid on it. The auction has already started and will most likely end in late May. So if you were ever going to donate, NOW IS THE TIME. www.reeflights.org or send check to F K R L F, 1067 Drift Creek Cove, Orlando, FL 32828
The last 4 are up for free transfer and we have put in our letter of interest for all 4, that deadline ended last night. Now to see who else is interested and see if perhaps a joint application would work.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211227 - 04/17/19 06:42 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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It does sound like a bunch of lame excuses they have made up. Almost like they want to sell it instead of giving it to a group that would preserve it. Are they going to require bidders to meet the same requirements to be qualified? Bet not.

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#211228 - 04/18/19 03:23 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
NO the bidders do NOT really have to qualify except to make a $5,000 deposit in order to bid. The winner can NOT change the historic nature. For example they can NOT paint the lighthouse PINK, because it was never that color. Also, no requirement to start restoring it and of course it becomes private property, the new owner does NOT have to let anyone on.
The history of what I have read, private ownership can be a curse or a blessing. Cape Florida was owned by a private owner who built the sea wall that saved the tower. The family that owned West Rigolets did nothing for 50 years and it washed away (the legs needed repair). So private ownership is a gamble.


Edited by ericlighthouse (04/18/19 03:24 AM)
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#211230 - 04/24/19 03:03 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
Bid for Sand Key currently at $16,000. There are 2 bids. We are just short of funds to increase the bid, as it needs to be at least $1,000 higher. I am working on that. Go to www.reeflights.org to donate (we have PayPal so any major credit card or debit card it can take.)
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211250 - 05/01/19 02:29 PM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
ericlighthouse Online
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Registered: 04/27/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
We also have a Go Fund Me campaign. Search for FKRLF and we are the one with the picture of Sand Key Lighthouse. Or use the whole name and go straight to it.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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#211256 - 05/04/19 03:00 AM Re: update on the Reef Lights (Florida) [Re: ericlighthouse]
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Posts: 2203
Loc: Orlando, Fl.
We are so close to having enough to bid on Sand Key Lighthouse. Just $220 needed. I have sent out several messages to my members. At one point we needed over $1,000.
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Eric, Florida Keys Reef Lights Foundation; Godfather of Jones Point River Lighthouse; member and District Commissioner of Florida Lighthouse Association et el

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