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HL 139 and UP Variances/Countries of Manufacture #207175 06/09/12 06:22 PM
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I compiled this list of variations, changes and countries of manufacture for HL 139 and up, GALS, GLOWS and LLOMs. I have listed them in the order of HL numbers and this may not place them in the order of issuance (i.e #405 Cape Lookout was prior to #175 Cape Lookout). I have not included Anchor Bay or any of the other Harbour Lights products nor have I included items that could not be bought (gold Pieces) or special edition pieces offered to a limited group. I have also not included thumbnails, ornaments and spyglass pieces. This list is just a starting point and I'm sure I will get some correction (maybe additions). I hope that if you see some errors (I'm sure I made many mistakes) you will tell me so I can correct or add to the list.

#139 Barnegat Lighthouse, New Jersey, Limited Edition (Green Water)
#139 Barnegat Lighthouse, New Jersey, Limited Edition (Blue Water)

#145 Assateaque Island Lighthouse(Mold 1), Virginia, Limited Edition (Chimney, No Tree)
#145 Assateaque Island Lighthouse (Mold 2), Virginia, Limited Edition (No Chimney, Tree Added)

#150 Pensacola Lighthouse, Florida, Limited Edition (Orange/Brown Roof)
#150 Pensacola Lighthouse, Florida, Limited Edition (Dark Brown Roof)

#153 Round Island Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition (Dark Brown Bldg)
#153 Round Island Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition (Reddish-Pink Bldg)

#155 Bald Head (Cape Fear) Lighthouse, North Carolina, Limited Edition (Malaysian)(Subdued Colors)
#155 Bald Head (Cape Fear) Lighthouse, North Carolina, Limited Edition (China)(Vivid Colors)

#160 Cape Meares Lighthouse, Oregon, Limited Edition (Malaysia)(No Flowers)(Light Windows)
#160 Cape Meares Lighthouse, Oregon, Limited Edition (China)(Pink Flowers)(Dark Windows)

#161 Highland Lighthouse (Cape Cod), Massachusetts, Limited Edition, (“S” after Highland)
#161 Highland Lighthouse (Cape Cod), Massachusetts, Limited Edition, (Deleted “S” after Highland)

#166 Scitutate Lighthouse, Massachusetts, Limited Edition (Malaysia)(Teal Green Plaster Railings on catwalk)
#166 Scitutate Lighthouse, Massachusetts, Limited Edition (China)(Black Metal Railings on catwalk)

#175 Cape Lookout Lighthouse , North Carolina, Limited Edition
#405 Cape Lookout Lighthouse , North Carolina, Open/Limited Edition (“A” Serial No.)

#176 Fire Island Lighthouse, New York, Limited Edition
#406 Fire Island Lighthouse, New York, Open/Limited Edition (“A” Serial No.)

#177 Alcatraz Island Lighthouse, California, Limited Edition
#407 Alcatraz Island Lighthouse, California, Open/Limited Edition (“A” Serial No.)

#178 Mukilteo Lighthouse, Washington, Limited Edition (Spelled “Mukilteo”)
#178 Mukilteo Lighthouse, Washington, Limited Edition (Spelled “Mulkilteo” with rounded “U”)
#178 Mukilteo Lighthouse, Washington, Limited Edition (Spelled “Mulkilteo” with flat “U”)
#417 Mukilteo Lighthouse, Washington, Open/Limited Edition (“Muukilteo” Spelling)
#417 Mukilteo Lighthouse, Washington, Open/Limited Edition (“Mlkilteo” Spelling)
#417 Mukilteo Lighthouse, Washington, Open/Limited Edition (“Mukilteo” Spelling)

#179 Toledo Harbor Lighthouse, Ohio, Limited Edition (Malaysia)
#179 Toledo Harbor Lighthouse, Ohio, Limited Edition (China)

#182 Spectacle Reef Lighthouse (1995 Great Lakes Stamp Set), Michigan, Limited Edition
#410) Spectacle Reef Lighthouse (1995 Great Lakes Stamp Set), Michigan, Open/Limited Edition (“A” Serial No.)

#183 Saint Joseph's North Pier Lighthouse (1995 Great Lakes Stamp Set), Michigan, Limited Edition
#411 Saint Joseph's North Pier Lighthouse (1995 Great Lakes Stamp Set), Michigan, Open/Limited Edition (“A” Serial No.)

#184 Thirty Mile Point Lighthouse (1995 Great Lakes Stamp Series), New York, Limited Edition
#414) Thirty Mile Point Lighthouse (1995 Great Lakes Stamp Series), New York, Open/Limited Edition ("A" Serial No.)

#186 Concord Point Lighthouse, Maryland, Limited Edition (Malaysian)(plaster catwalk railings)
#186 Concord Point Lighthouse, Maryland, Limited Edition (China)(metal catwalk railings)

#188 Beavertail Lighthouse, Rhode Island, Limited Edition (Peach-Tan Tower)
#188 Beavertail Lighthouse, Rhode Island, Limited Edition (Grey Tower)

#191 Grand Traverse Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition (Malaysia)
#191 Grand Traverse Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition (China)

#202 Gray's Harbor Lighthouse, Washington, Limited Edition (Tower Window directly above Tower Entrance Door)
#202 Gray's Harbor Lighthouse, Washington, Limited Edition (Tower Window Misorientated 45 Degrees Clockwise above Tower Entrance)

#229 American Shoal Lighthouse, Florida, Limited Edition (Blue Felt)
#229 American Shoal Lighthouse, Florida, Limited Edition (Green Felt)

#230 Hudson-Athens Lighthouse, New York, Limited Edition (Partial Fence)
#230 Hudson-Athens Lighthouse, New York, Limited Edition (Full Fence)

#241 Gutan Locks Lighthouse, Panama Canal Zone, Limited Edition Set (Malaysia)
#241 Gutan Locks Lighthouse, Panama Canal Zone, Limited Edition Set (China)

#241 Miraflores Locks Lighthouse, Panama Canal Zone, Limited Edition Set (Malaysia)
#241 Miraflores Locks Lighthouse, Panama Canal Zone, Limited Edition Set (China)

#260 East Point Lighthouse, New Jersey, Limited Edition (Brown Porch Railing and Posts)
#260 East Point Lighthouse, New Jersey, Limited Edition (White Porch Railing and Posts)

#315 Hereford Inlet Lighthouse (Fall Colors), New Jersey, Limited Edition (“ALPHA S/N”)
#315 Hereford Inlet Lighthouse (Fall Colors), New Jersey, Limited Edition (No “ALPHA S/N”)

#366 Bishop and Clerks Lighthouse, Massachusetts, Limited Edition, (Flag has "Bishop and Clarks")

#370 Carysfort Reef Lighthouse, Florida, Limited Edition, (Flag has "Carrysfort Reef")

#396 Chicago Harbor SE Guide Wall Lighthouse, Illinois, Limited Edition (State is Listed as “LL” instead of “IL”).

#401 Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, North Carolina, Open Edition GAL "A" S/N (Great American Lighthouses)(Reverse Stripes)
#401 Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, North Carolina, Open Edition GAL "A" S/N (Great American Lighthouses)
#401 Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, North Carolina, Open Edition GLOW "B S/N & UP(Great Lighthouses of the World)
#401R Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, North Carolina, Revised Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (Revised by adding Keeper's House and Paint Changes)(Great Lighthouses of the World)

#402 Boston Harbor, Massachusetts, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(1995 "A" S/N issues had a “HARBOUR” Spelling)
#402 Boston Harbor, Massachusetts, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(1996 "B" S/N and UP had a “HARBOR” Spelling)
#402R Boston Harbor, Massachusetts, Revised Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (Revised by changing Outbuilding and Paint Changes)

#403 SE Block Island, Rhode Island, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)
#403R SE Block Island, Rhode Island, Revised Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (Revised with Larger Building and Paint Changes)

#404 Portland Head, Maine, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)
#404R Portland Head, Maine, Revised Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (Revised with Larger Building and Paint Changes)

#405 Montauk Point, New York, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (Small Quantity First Issued had a White Outbuilding)
#405 Montauk Point, New York, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (White Outbuilding Removed)

#408 Ponce De Leon, Florida, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Small Quantity Released Without an “A” Letter Prefix in S/N)
#408 Ponce De Leon, Florida, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Added a Letter Prefix in S/N)

#409 Old Point Loma, California, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Small Quantity Released Without an “A” Letter Prefix in S/N)
#409 Old Point Loma, California, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Added a Letter Prefix in S/N)

#414 Barnegat, New Jersey, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World, Thin Tower)
#414R Barnegat, New Jersey, Revised Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World) (Revised with Tower Re-sculpture and Paint Changes)

#420, Cape Canaveral Florida, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Small Quantity Released Without an “A” Letter Prefix in S/N)
#420 Cape Canaveral, Florida, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Added a Letter Prefix in S/N)

#430 Pensacola, Florida, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Small Quantity Released Without an “A” Letter Prefix in S/N)
#430 Pensacola, Florida, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Added a Letter Prefix in S/N)

#440 Drum Point Lighthouse, Maryland, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(First 2000 Released Had a Sign that Read “DRUM POINT LIGHTHOURSE”)
#440 Drum Point Lighthouse, Maryland, Open Edition GLOW (Great Lighthouses of the World)(Sign was Changed to Read “DRUM POINT LIGHTHOUSE”)

#501 Point Fermin Lighthouse, California, 1995-1996 Society Charter Membership Limited Edition (Brown Stones, Black Rope, Deep Crossties)
#501 Point Fermin Lighthouse, California, 1995-1996 Society Charter Membership Limited Edition (Tan Stones, Brown Rope, Shallow Crossties)

#502 Stonington Harbor Lighthouse, Connecticut, 1996-1997 Society Membership Limited Edition (Malaysian) Light Blue Water
#502 Stonington Harbor Lighthouse, Connecticut, 1996-1997 Society Membership Limited Edition (China) Vivid Colors with Dark Blue/Green Water

#519 Point Fermin 5th Year Collector's Society Anniversary Exclusive (Member's Only Piece), Three Boat Trim Colors (Red, White and Yellow Signed by either Kim, Harry or Unknown Artist

#521 Seven Foot Knoll Lighthouse, Maryland, 1999-2000 Society Membership Limited Edition (Tall Aft Mast)
#521 Seven Foot Knoll Lighthouse, Maryland, 1999-2000 Society Membership Limited Edition (Short Aft Mast)

#600 1995 Harbour Lights Legacy Lighthouse ,Limited Edition, (Red Letter Dealer's Edition)
#601 1995 Harbour Lights Legacy Lighthouse, Limited Edition (Blue Letter Collector's Edition)

#628 Harbour Lights Beckoning Beacons Lighthouse, Open Edition, (Blue Letter Collector's Edition)
#630 Harbour Lights Beckoning Beacons Lighthouse, Open Edition, (Gold Letter Rep. Special Event Edition)

#663 Golden Gate Bridge, California, (Painted Special Limited Edition)
#663G Golden Gate Bridge, California, (Gold Plated Pewter Limited Edition)

#691 Cheboygan Crib Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition, 2005 Collector’s Family Reunion Piece (Reunion on Sign Spelled “REUHION”)
#691 Cheboygan Crib Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition, 2005 Collector's Family Reunion Piece (Reunion on Sign Spelled "Reuhion")(Solid Rocks in Place of Rectangular Flag Base)
#691 Cheboygan Crib Lighthouse, Michigan, Limited Edition, 2005 Collector’s Family Reunion Piece (Reunion on Sign Spelled Correctly)

#712 Michigan City Lighthouse, Indiana, 2001 Christmas Limited Edition (Balcony Railing on Second Deck)
#712 Michigan City Lighthouse, Indiana, 2001 Christmas Limited Edition (Balcony Railing on Second Deck Missing)

#LL123 Point Arena, California, LLOM (Little Light of Mine)(Initially Identified as Carolina instead of California)
#LL123 Point Arena, California, LLOM (Little Light of Mine)(State corrected to California)


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Re: HL 139 and UP Variances/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207176 06/10/12 02:30 AM
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HL366 Bishop and Clerks. The first, (possibly only??) 550 flags said "Bishop and Clarks"
Would that qualify on your list??


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Re: HL 139 and UP Variances/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207179 06/10/12 10:29 AM
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Roland - That would definately qualify. Thank you for mentioning this. I will add this to the list. Do we know if they ever corrected this mistake because if they did correct I would also like to add the corrected spelling. Does anyone know?


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Carysfort Reef and misspelled version -CARRYSFORT REEF—first 550?


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Daniel - I've added this to the list and thank you. Do you know of a correctly spelled version of HL370 Carysfort Reef? Also, do you know of a correctly spelled version of HL366 Bishop and Clerks and a version of HL396 Chicago Harbor SE Guide Wall with "IL" instead of "LL"?

In fact, does anyone have any input on these 3 pieces or any other pieces?


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The only one I have is Carysfort Reef. My #73 is mis-spelled, Carrysfort. And I hadn't noticed until now.

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There was a Carysfort on ebay and it was the miss-spelled version with a number of 496


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Don't know for sure but I suspect there were never any more ordered of Carysfort, Chicago Harbor and Bishop & Clerks after the original 550.


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I called HLs today and asked Rhonda to check the following lighthouses (highest numbers they had for each one).

#366 Bishop and Clerks Lighthouse, Massachusetts, Limited Edition, (Flag has "Bishop and Clarks")

#370 Carysfort Reef Lighthouse, Florida, Limited Edition, (Flag has "Carrysfort Reef")

#396 Chicago Harbor SE Guide Wall Lighthouse, Illinois, Limited Edition (State is Listed as “LL” instead of “IL”).

She called me back this afternoon and said that as far as she could see, only the initial order of 550 was placed and recieved for each one. This means there are NO CORRECT flags for these lighthouses available, only the incorrect flags on each of the three..


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Only 550 Carysfort and they are still for sale at Lighthouse depot.


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Originally Posted By: flacoastie
This means there are NO CORRECT flags for these lighthouses available, only the incorrect flags on each of the three..

Just about what I suspected.


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All 3 are still available at LHD as of today.


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We still have Chicago Harbor and Bishop & Clerks in stock as well.


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a question about the charter members anniversary piece #519, as I recall there were at least 2 different colors on the boat (possibly just the trim of the boat) does anyone remember how many different colors there were and what were the colors ?

And also Rich, the #502 Stonington Harbor Lighthouse had two different water colors from the Malaysian and China pieces (the colors were similar to your customized Wisconsin point and the original Wisc. point)

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The 528 Point fermin boat color was brown

and the #519 had three boat colors red, yellow and white.
They were signed by Harry and Kim.


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Daniel - Were these truly variances or were these boat colors the same on all the HL528 and HL519 pieces.

Mark - Do you have both of the HL502 Stonington Harbor pieces that show this difference in water color? If you do could you send me a picture of the 2 pieces. This is the first time I've heard about this.


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Mark - I just examined my Malaysian (S/N 0140) and China (S/N 3281) and they both have the same shade of blue water. I sure would like to see a picture of your 2 Stonington Harbors with the different water colors. This would be a true variance.


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The #519 was produced for collectors that had membership back to 1995. They were the only ones that could purchase the 519. To make them special from the 528, Harry Kim and one other Artist hand painted the different colors onto the boats. Then they signed them. They were purposely painted to be different from each other, so I would consider them a variation.


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Daniel - I have the HL519 with red trim on a light brown boat. Kim signed it. I didn't realize that there were 2 other colors. Do you know what color Harry signed and who signed the other one.


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Rich, I took a picture of both Stoningtons years ago, If I can find it I'll post it. 90% of my collection is boxed up, making it difficult to locate both pieces but that may be an option too

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I think Harry signed the white one.
I don't remember the third person. It wasn't a name I knew so I didn't remember it. All this information is in the forum somewhere. I gave a comprehensive description all about when it happened and many of the collectors listed theirs with who signed it. The big problem is that with the new forum the search engines is impossible to get it to work. It’s a shame all the info on this forum and I don't know how to retrieve it.


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Daniel - Thanks for coming up with the other name. I'll go ahead and list HL519 as a variance and add the different water colors on Stonington Harbor as a possible.


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Here is a picture from today, I have emailed Rich a bunch of pictures, but any way there it is

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Here is a picture for everyone to see, I have emailed Rich a bunch of pictures
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Here is a closeup

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There is a difference. Could it be like the HL155 Bald Head where it is noted that the China Version had more vivid colors? It's funny because my Malaysian and China versions are exactly the same. Could my China version have been painted in Malaysia and had a China sticker put on it like some of the early lighthouses when they were painted in California and finished in Canada?

As I now compare my Malaysian and China Pieces side by side, using Mark's pictures, I can see where the stones and roof on the China version are much darker then the Malaysian version. The water on my China version is also a little darker then the Malaysian version, but, not by much. The China version's flowers and grass are also much darker. I personally believe that the Reference in John's book that the China paint job being "more vivid" is how I would classify this.

Any thoughts on this? Should it be listed as a "Variance" or noted as "Vivid Colors" like the HL155 Bald Head? On page 427 of John's book under Bald Head he notes that China versions had much more vivid colors.


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I made notations for HL502 Stonington Harbor to the effect that the Malaysian version has "light Blue Water" and the China version has "Vivid Colors and Dark Blue/Green Water".

I also added some additional GLOW versions that were revised and corrected a typo for HL519 Pt. Fermin listing "Red, White and Yellow Boat Trim" instead of "Red. White and Blue Boat Trim.

I haven't heard from too many members on this list, but, what I have heard is all GOOD information. Are there any other additions, corrections or changes I should add to this list?


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