This is for everybody at tonight's chat!



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I wasn't in on the chat, but wanted to let you know that I think this is a COOL photo!

Some of us are still waiting and we are getting impatient. The photo just increases our appetite.

Moby

That's really impressive, Paul. We were in the Chesapeake area in May, and we could only see this from a LONG way away. That's really a cool shot.

Bill

Nice photo Paul!
Now please let us know how you got so close.
I like Bill H. was there in May and could only get a glimpse through a telephoto lens from the shore.
so, private boat? tour boat - hopefully?
Who holds your props?

I hired a Captain and his boat for a day and we got to 6 different Chesapeake lights. He normally takes fishing groups, but said he enjoyed going lighthousing. I probably got a lower price quote than the next time he is hired to go lighthousing because he burned up a lot more fuel than he normally does with the fishing parties.

The HL Baltimore Harbor is sitting on my fingertips of my left hand while the camera is in my right hand. I shot some the lighthouses while they were sitting on the really nice wooden railing around the aft of the boat.

I am surprised that nobody has noticed the big difference between the HL and the real Baltimore Harbor lighthouse. Almost everything was identical or very close when we compared the HL and real lighthouse while floating around the lighthouse. There is one big difference that I saw immediately and that is the reason I posted this angle on the lighthouses.

Let's see who gets it first!

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Oh no...the real lighthouse has 8 sides but the piece only has 6. NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!

Just kidding. The difference is...on the real thing, there's no place to pee. Looks like they've dismantled the outhouse. HL must have used old photos or plans to make it historically accurate.

Do I win a LE Coquille? I'll settle for a GLOW...grudgingly.

Bill

You are correct!

It is there, but it is directly on the other side of the lighthouse. I guess that would be a 180-degree difference.

I don't know if it was done to balance the lighthouse with it and the boatlift on opposite sides or maybe it could be the planned mistake for copyright purposes. It probably is way too obvious for the latter but you never know.

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Nice dexterity, Paul!(No wonder you're a Saint!)
I noticed the red ??? but was not confident or knowledgeable enough to know what it was or point it out.
Please email me the referral on the Captain, My sister lives outside Baltimore (GlenBurnie) and I definitely would like to follow in your footsteps.
thanks,
Bob

Paul,

Is it the fact that the steel has a ribbed look on the piece, but on the real light it is smooth?

Stephen

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I was like Jake, I noticed the ribbing, but not the red building!

It's ribbed but maybe not as dramatically as the HL version. The real lighthouse being out of focus in the background kind of conceals the lines, but the real lighthouse was definitely pieces of metal welded together. I will add a shot of just the real lighthouse to the early post to give everyone a better look at the ribbing on it.

These are the added images:



The first image on the left shows the outhouse position on the other side from where it is on the HL Baltimore Harbor lighthouse and the second image on the right is a blowup of the right side of the same picture, that shows the ribbing or welding seams.

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I updated the above post with pictures and added this post so you would know there is something new on this thread.

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>>The difference is...on the real thing, there's no place to pee. <<

And on the model one requires excruciating accuracy? :-)


Of course kudos to Paulie for his usual top-notch photography. Sometime you should play a trick on us an put the model in the background.

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Bob (rscroope), I must confess, it was the hand of Poseidon that was holding the lighthouse, while I shot the pictures, as you can see here on the Sandy Point duo image.

Really it is me just trying to get my famous thumb on the internet again (thumbnail group shot in the catalog).

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So Paul, what are the white dribbles down the side of the base? Did they spill the paint or is it mucho bird do-do?

Mucho, Muchiest, More Mucho, Most Muchiest bird do-do! If you look at the top of Baltimore Harbour's lantern room, it was almost black before the birds anointed it on the real lighthouse.

Bill Younger said, upon seeing these pictures at Rosemont, "that they had decided not to 'do' the HL version with quite so much 'do'." He remembered the 'do' from when he shot HL's pictures of the Baltimore Harbor lighthouse, as having the most do-do of just about any lighthouse he had ever been too.

That is saying a lot considering how much 'do' Toledo has on it. When Bill went out to Toledo Harbor lighthouse with Sue (my wife), Chad (my son) and I to do a television news story on him and HL lighthouses, the how much do-do can HL do and not have collectors say don't do-do so much 'do'. He did state that it does add a lot to the realistic look of the lighthouses. Maybe to 'do' or not to 'do' is the question? There is a small thin line between 'do'ing real and the reality of selling the product.


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These really made me anxious to get my Baltimore Harbor! I sent my check in 6/7, still waiting.

If we decide that our HL's aren't realistic enough I suppose we could park them out next to the birdfeeder for a bit!

A new meaning to "rotating the display"?

Paul, another exceptional job!!! Do you plan to publish a book of lighthouses with your "thumbnail pictures". Did you use the digital Olympus for these shots??

Ron
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Paul, the pictures are great. Did you use a digital camera?

Kathy

I used both of my cameras. I have a Nikon F4 film camera and an Olympus DL600 digital camera. The digital really comes in handy with the instant feedback about how the shot looks. I also shot with film since I have so many more lenses to choose from with my Nikon (focal length) and depending on the conditions. I have images shot from each camera posted in this forum of the Baltimore lighthouse, two of one kind and one of the other (digital & film or film & digital)

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OK, Paul!!! Is there a prize for choosing which pictures were shot with which camera? I'll say that the first two were the Nikon and the last one is the Olympus.

Ron
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Nope, you only got one right Ron!

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Personally, I prefer my Kodak Brownie.....

Picture 1 digital, Picture 2 film Picture 3 film, That would be my guess, but it helps that Ron has helped eliminate other options.

You are correct Orv! You have earned the right to look at the images as much as you want.

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I thought I might as well continue the Chesapeake Bay Harbour Lights comparison tour. The Sharps Island lighthouse was the most difficult to shoot with the Harbour Lights version. By the time we were at Sharps the Chesapeake Bay was no longer like glass. The rolling of the boat made it a challenge to shoot the picture and get the angles correct. What I did was get the two lighthouses in the frame and then just pay attention to the railing and the line where the water meets the sky. Would that be the waterline or the skyline? It isn't perfect but I got close.

There is another obvious difference between the real and the Harbour Lights lighthouse. It is not the ladder. The ladder is there and basically in the same location. The fact that the real lighthouse is out of focus and slightly turned counterclockwise as compared to the Harbour Lights lighthouse conceals the ladder.

Was it shot on my Nikon or my Olympus digital camera? You have a 50/50 chance of being correct and Orv can't answer since he has already won the top prize.

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I believe the difference is the davits for raising and lowering a boat. (My guess is the digital.)

Frank, you are correct on the difference being - the davits for raising and lowering of a boat. HL would probably include them now that they have mastered that technology. Now everybody to close their eyes so I can tell Frank the second part:


You are wrong on the second part. It was shot with my Nikon on film. I have a feeling some cheated and scrolled down and looked.

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"...and the line where the water meets the sky. Would that be the waterline or the skyline?"

In CT we call that the horizon. The waterline is out of view on the side of the boat Paul, and the skyline starts at the horizon and follows the outline of both the Harbour Lights piece and the real Sharp's Island lighthouse. Both lines are fine lines.

Nice job catching this one Paul, with all the angles and the rolling boat.

Would you believe me if I guessed you used the Nikon? Is it too late to enter your contest? Since orv won first place what do the runners up get?

Keep these pictures coming, they're great! I would like to see a similar shot of Mobile Bay with the cow on the deck and the little guy passing in the sailboat. Now THAT'S a challenge Paul.

Ron
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Hi Paul,
Have really enjoyed your photos posted here. I saw some of them from the air while I was in Maryland in July.

Derith

First of all Derith, if you saw my Harbour Lights lighthouses in front of the real lighthouses, you must have great eyesight!

The tour continues:



And of course the Hoosier Lighthousing blending shot of yours truly:



It just doesn't get any better than this!!

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Paul, your pictures of the HL's lighthouses in front of the real thing are really great. It gave me an idea. I would love to see a comparision photograph or postcard included with the certificate. Wouldn't it be great to get a picture like that with each HL lighthouse?

Joanne

That's a GREAT idea Joanne! I vote for it.

I just happen to know a photographer that would be perfect for such an endeavor and his name isn't Paladin!

Have Camera Will Travel!

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When you travel to Australia, Paul, you are going to need someone to hold the sculpture of Maquarie while you take the photo. It will be tough on my schedule, but someone has to do it. I'll relunctantly volunteer. Architects have steady hands! LOL

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Rod Watson

I thought it was time to add a couple more images to this thread.

Where was I when I shot this first image of Sharps Island Lighthouse?



What's the most interesting thing about the Sharp's Island Lighthouse? IMHO



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1) Sharp Island Park?
2) Latern is level to the waterline not the LH!

Paul,

Thanks for sharing such great work, it is people like you that make this forum interesting, and Lamar who took the time to check on my where abouts he had not read anything from me on the forum for a few weeks, Lamar is one caring guy from Louisiana.

Hot and Humid high 97 heat index around l06, cloudy may have a chance for scattered thunder showers

Bob
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Wrong on number one Bob(rscroope).

What you mean to say with your answer on number two is correct, but I would probably say that it is perpendicular to the waterline or straight up and down and not leaning over like the lighthouse.

Which by the way happened as a result of ice damage in 1977. The Captain of the Dancer, the boat I chartered, said that when the Coast Guard asked the boaters, both commercial and private, if they wanted the Coast Guard to straighten Sharps up, they said no. It is so unique that the minute they see it on the horizon they know they are at Sharps, even without all the fancy equipment.

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Rod, you are way too busy with that wonderful website of yours to be taking time off to go hold Harbour Lights for Paul in Australia. Besides, I auditioned for the part at Chatham in 1998 and I believe the results of that were excellent. Please Paul, tell him I did ok and show him the picture to remind him. Rod, you would have to remain here in order to research and answer any questions that might come up concerning the roofline of Maquarie (or other architectural inquiries).

Ron
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Ron & Rod or Rod & Ron

I found this guy, in his Hoosier lighthousing blending outfit, to hold the Sharps Island for this image.
As I have said before, "It just doesn't get any better than this." That's scary now I am quoting myself.


The next image may show one reason that the boaters in the area didn't want the Coast Guard to straighten Sharps Island lighthouse.



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Paul: Does your wife ever get that shirt off you to wash it?

Mombo

Mailed my Society renewal 6/7. My check cleared 6/25. Got Baltimore Harbor today. VERY CUTE!

Paul, ...You are unbelievable. How many of your HLs have visited the actual light they depict?

I've got to get a job like yours! ... lol

Bob

Mombo-

I have proof that Paul's wife has gotten that shirt off him at least once, and Bill is wearing it!

[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=64226&a=465615&p=11516507&sequence=1[/img]


Jakers

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Nice picture Jake, great group!

Oh by the way it was just Bill's day to wear it. I told him we should buy a second one, one for each of us.

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Great picture Jake! Are those Wacko glasses you're all wearing? You have a ways to go yet before you qualify for Wacko Facial Hair!

Mombo

Hey Jakers - who's the real handsome dude on the right?

John, I can't figure out who he is. Since he is walking of the screen to the right and I can't see his head. I can't remember who was wearing a Navy blue shirt with white stripes on it in the booth that day.

Since no one ventured a guess and this is post 50 in this thread, I will tell you that to shot the image below I was standing at almost the Southern most tip of Black Walnut Point on Tilghman Island. I was using my Nikon with 500mm lens with a 2X extender and my Delorme Street Atlas put the distance at about 4 miles. I found that hard to believe myself but that is what it says when I route the trip over to the light from the end of the road at Black Walnut Point. Not being a person to trust just one source of information (the newsman in me, the old 2-source rule), I checked my Maryland/Delaware Atlas & Gazetteer - detailed topographic map and it confirmed that the distance was 4 miles.



I am closing this thread but the saga continues..... 216.46.163.97/forums/Forum1/HTML/000412.html

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