A few days ago, Jim Johnson requested a signature using the Matisse font. I thought other forum users might like to spice up their postings with their own special sig. So here's a collection you can modify for yourself as you see fit.

Couple points to keep in mind:

1. You and whomever is viewing the forum most have the requisite font loaded on their computer for both of you to see the same thing. I don't have a clue if your machine has the same fonts as I'm gonna use, but I'll try not to pick any not likely to be too uncommon. ;->

2. The HTML 'psuedo code' beneath each sample must be modified. Don't be scared off by this, its a simple typing job. Just replace the parantheses symbols ( ) with the 'lesser than' and 'greater than' symbols found on your key board. Also - replace the name with your own handle - keep all spacing and characters intact.

Swipe and cut the 'psuedo-code' from this message, bring up Window's NotePad (or any other editor) and paste. Then do the parantheses swap. Save your work. Using your browser's, Open of Open Page option, you can then load the file you saved and see what it will look like on-line. Then copy your new sig into your messages (feel free to append here or use The Play Room to test). If these instructions aren't clear or sufficient, let me know and I'll say more.

Frank DeKova
(FONT FACE="Garamond" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Maroon")Frank DeKova(/FONT)

Mr. Flattail
(FONT FACE="Monotype Corsiva" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Navy")Mr. Flattail(/FONT)

Petrus Artedi
(FONT FACE="Century Gothic" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Purple")(i)Petrus Artedi(/i)(/FONT)

George Tirebiter
(FONT FACE="Bookman Old Style" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Green")George Tirebiter(/FONT)

Ida Lewis
(FONT FACE="Impact" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Teal")Ida Lewis(/FONT)

Eric Noltkamper
(FONT FACE="Georgia" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Red")Eric Noltkamper(/FONT)

Valentina Tereshkova
(FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Olive")Valentina Tereshkova(/FONT)

Man Ray
(FONT FACE="Book Antiqua" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Fuchsia")Man Ray(/FONT)

Gottfried Leibniz
(FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Black")Gottfried Leibniz(/FONT)

Andre Breton
(FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="+3" COLOR="Maroon")Andre Breton(/FONT)

Special bonus: Identify who all these people are and I'll custom design your personal signature in the font of your choice.

Stuck in Text Mode,
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/im

I think I remember a George Tirebiter back at old Morescience High. Of course that was when Principal Poop was there. There never were many people who hung out in the Firesign Theatre, though.

Lessee..

Ida Lewis, keeper of the Lime Rock lighthouse, Newport RI

Mr. Flatail, close buddy of SeAnDiEgO

Valentina Tereshkova, tennis star?

Man Ray, photographer of the 30's 40's

That's it for me.



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0 :>) St. John of the Internet

[This message has been edited by JChidester (edited 02-21-99).]

Opps. I forgot you can't do this signature thing with the 'profile signature'. Well, y ou can, but you must EDIT your message after posting it. HTML code in the profile signature won't be converted. But once you post your message with signature, it's all one thing so by simply editing the message and clicking to repost it the HTML code gets converted.

Rod gave me some HTML code to make those "Edited By" messages blend into the background - by setting the color to match the background. Note that there are two different background colors used here on alternating messages.

But Tim, Isn't there some tag I can use to make that "Edited By..." be truly hidden? like "META" or "MOTHER" or something?!?!? Of course I can't post a closing tag... and maybe I can't post it close to the beginning of the 'edited by' message. Oh never mind.



[This message has been edited by JChidester (edited 02-21-99).]

Good John - you got 3 out of 4!

To hide the 'Edited By' insertion, I simply place (font color="#f7f7f7") as the final text in the message for light background, use 'color="#DBDBDB"' for the darker. Substitute angle brackets for parens. Do *not* include the closing tag: (/font).

If anyone wants to see what's going on HTML wise w/ any message thread, place your mouse on the thread and click the RMB (right mouse button). Then select 'View Source'. This will reveal the HTML code used to create the entire page. You may have to hunt a bit to find the exact spot you're looking for, but hunting is something us lighthousers know well. (g)

Fwiw, this message has the 'Edited By...' insert, but is hidden using the example given above.

Here's what the above paragraph would look like it as I typed it - if it was the last in the messge:

Fwiw, this message has the 'Edited By...' insert, but is hidden using the example given above. (font color="#DBDBDB")
[This message has been edited by JTimothyA (edited 10-23-99).]

color="dedfdf" also works well for the darker background.

If you also preface it with (font size=1 color="******") then the size is reduced also, which helps in hiding it, so as not to have a large gap below the signature (like below)

---

Rod Watson
_{[This message has been edited by Rod Watson (edited 09-21-99).]}

but all that 'hiding' shows up if you drag your mouse across the area or print the post...

>>If you also preface it with (font size=1 color="******") then the size is reduced also, which helps in hiding it, so as not to have a large gap below the signature (like below)<<

In the following examples, replace the ( ) with appropriate angle brackets.

Hi Rod,

Actually its *not* the 'SIZE' tag that is causing there to be less white space. I suspect its a typo you may have introduced, or a clever way to trick the Forum Software's HTML parser. (Being generous we'll assume the latter ). With correct HTML you can set the size tag to "-3" or "+3" and the space between your sig and the close of the message doesn't get any smaller or larger!

Here's what's going on. After the final HTML you insert, the Forum Software's HTML parser inserts a (p) tag then it inserts the 'Editied by...' text. The (p) is the HTML code for 'new paragraph' which causes some lines to be skipped before the 'Edited by...' text is displayed. (or whited out by use of the color instruction we've been discussing). This paragraph tag comes *after* the size tag and thus says, skip to a new paragraph before displaying the next text. Therefore, regardless of the size you set for the next line of HTML, it will only display *after* the new paragraph is started.

To be syntactically correct, all HTML tags are demarked by opening and closing angle brackets. Thats what tells the browser's HTML parser where the HTML instruction begins and ends, thus allowing it to distinquish the HTML code from the text you type and want displayed.

Rod's HTML leaves off a final closing angle bracket. The final line of HTML code he inserts looks like this:

(font color="f7f7f7" size="1"

To be correct, it should read:

(font color="f7f7f7" size="1")

Here's where the trick comes in...

The Forum Software does it's thing and inserts the paragraph (p) tag after the closing HTML the user inserts. The HTML parser always tries to match an opening angle bracket with a closing angle bracket. Outer brackets take precedence over inner brackets in this matching process.

When Rod leaves off the closing angle bracket in his final instruction, the Forum Software still does its thing, the resulting HTML looks like this:

(font color="f7f7f7" size="1"(P)[This message edited by...](/FONT)

-example shows the HTML inserted by the parser in bold; it also inserts the 'Edited by...' text.

When the browser parses this HTML string, it starts looking for matching angle brackets. Stuff that's inside angle brackets which is invalid HTML, the browser ignores.

It matches the leftmost opening bracket '(' with the closing bracket immediately to the right of the 'p)' tag and sees these as a matching pair. Therefore it does not see angle brackets around the 'p' itself and thus concludes this is not a valid HTML instruction and ignores it! Ignoring the (p) means there is no paragraph instruction, and thus no jumping to a new line with white space in between.

Here's what the parser sees, with matching brackets colorized:

(font color="f7f7f7" size="1"(P)[This message edited by...](/FONT)

You can see how the '(P' get ignored.

A full explanation is actually more complicated than this (can you believe it), but if you've followed this far, you get the gist of it. Note my message before this one, the one that starts 'Good John -...'; it has no 'SIZE' instruction, but by leaving off the final bracket, it tricks the Forum Software and voila - no extra white space.

Personally, I need all the margin I can get. (vbg).

>>but all that 'hiding' shows up if you drag your mouse across the area or print the post...<<

Of course John - you know we can't hide anything from you. rofl!

Rgds,
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/im
[This message has been edited by JTimothyA (edited 10-23-99).]

See Tim, I'm actually much smarter than I appear!

Actually, one time I noticed I accidentally missed copying the last ">", and it moved the "edited" message up into the signature line. I liked it, so I kept the signature tag like that for all posts.

(Your explanation sounds like I knew what I was doing, so don't tell anyone it started with a mistake)

---

Rod Watson

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41400 02/22/99 03:05 AM Joined: Dec 1998 Posts: 1,591 Art Member Art Member Joined: Dec 1998 Posts: 1,591 Here's a few more identities to add to John's list: Frank DeKova was an eminent Native American of the Hakowee (sp?) tribe, and a friend of Corporal Agarn, U.S. Army. Petrus Artedi was a good friend and co-taxonomist of Carolus Linnaeus. Interesting bit of serendipity here for you, Tim: There is also a species of whitefish (as in Whitefish Bay) named Coregonus artedii. (I'm not lying about any of this!) Gottfried Leibniz was a co-inventor (along with Isaac Newton, different place, about a decade apart) of the calculus. It is for him that the Leibniz notation (the form d/dx) is named. Don't ask me how I know this. I haven't a clue. Nor did I have a clue as to who the remaining characters are until I did a Yahoo search. I invite the reader to do this for himself. -Art [Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.] -Art

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41401 02/22/99 03:30 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel >>Teach a man to fish,...<< That's the ticket. (But reading all those Blue Books can be a real pita.) Have fun with fonts, learn something new, *and* be mildly amused. What a Forum! Going Cleveland Style, __ /im

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41402 03/19/99 08:32 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,468 Bremen, Indiana Digger Super Wacko Digger Super Wacko Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,468 Bremen, Indiana Hey I finally figured out this signature thing!!!! Digger ------------------

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41403 03/19/99 09:34 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,468 Bremen, Indiana Digger Super Wacko Digger Super Wacko Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,468 Bremen, Indiana My wife likes this one better. DIGGER (Underground And Still Digging) [This message has been edited by Gravedigger (edited 03-19-99).]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41404 03/21/99 03:48 AM Joined: Feb 1999 Posts: 280 springfield mo usa O orv Member orv Member O Joined: Feb 1999 Posts: 280 springfield mo usa Is this it. ORV ORV

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41405 03/22/99 05:06 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,345 Groton, CT, USA RFoster Member RFoster Member Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 1,345 Groton, CT, USA Ron Foster Ron (CT Keeper)

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41406 04/25/99 10:43 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Saint mombo Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41407 04/25/99 10:46 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Saint mombo Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41408 04/25/99 10:48 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Saint mombo Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY Mombo

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41409 04/27/99 01:29 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel Practice makes mombo. Aren't these computers picky picky picky.

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41410 04/27/99 01:45 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Saint mombo Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY Actually my son did this last night. He saved it someplace but I haven't the foggiest idea how to use it in the forums! All the instructions are mumbo-jumbo to me!

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41411 04/27/99 02:00 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel (FONT FACE="AGaramond" SIZE="+2" COLOR="Green")Mombo(/FONT) If you know how to cut and paste, just cut out the above, and paste where you want your signature. Then (here's the important part) replace the both left paranthese '(' with a left angle bracket '<' and both of the ) with a >. You can also save your signature (already formatted as HTML with the angle brackets) in a file, then paste it where ever you want your sig. Here are some alternatives: Mombo Mombo Mombo Mombo In case anyone is wondering, the fonts for the above are: Litterbox ICG Wonton ICG Impact Prestige Elite __ /im

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41412 04/27/99 11:43 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Saint mombo Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY Mombo Voila! Thanks, Tim! [This message has been edited by mombo (edited 04-27-99).]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41413 04/28/99 12:22 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Saint mombo Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 7,088 Phoenix, NY mombo Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41414 09/21/99 12:49 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel Again, surfacing this post for the newbs [Note: This message has been edited by JTimothyA]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41415 09/28/99 11:58 PM Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 351 Summerville, SC Jim Chesher Member Jim Chesher Member Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 351 Summerville, SC Am I correct in assuming that if I create a signature in HTML that and use it here that the only way to get it to work properly is to edit the post immediately to that the HTML code is read? Jim Chesher

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41416 09/29/99 01:09 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 13,047 Arizona Webmaster Saint Webmaster Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 13,047 Arizona Two choices, Mr. Chesher... 1. Make a signature in HTML, indicate when posting to use your 'signature'. Then, since signatures cannot use HTML, you can click on the edit icon and save it. That converts your signature from being a separate entity into one that is part of the message which does allow HTML. 2. Keep a copy of the HTML that makes up your signature in another program -- such as NOTEPAD. When you're working on your response, open the text file, select it, copy it and paste it in at the bottom of the message. The latter is what I did below: ------------------ 0 :>) St. John of the Internet Webmaster@LighthouseKeepers.com

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41417 09/30/99 12:36 AM Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 351 Summerville, SC Jim Chesher Member Jim Chesher Member Joined: Aug 1999 Posts: 351 Summerville, SC Thanks for the info Saint John Jim Chesher

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41418 10/06/99 08:20 AM Joined: Sep 1999 Posts: 522 williamson, ga. Rusty Super Wacko Rusty Super Wacko Joined: Sep 1999 Posts: 522 williamson, ga. Thanks for the INFO! Rusty

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41419 01/26/00 02:40 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel what was lost now is found

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41420 04/15/00 03:39 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork T Tim Junior Member Tim Junior Member T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork Well... let's see if this works! Tim - Keeping the flame lit By George, I think I've got it!!! [This message has been edited by Tim (edited 04-15-2000).]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41421 04/15/00 06:45 PM Joined: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,673 oh' somewhere between here and... Weasel58 Super Wacko Weasel58 Super Wacko Joined: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,673 oh' somewhere between here and... Good show Tim. Now that you know how to use the signatures, you must use them as much as posible. Weasel58 Eric

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41422 04/16/00 12:16 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork T Tim Junior Member Tim Junior Member T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork Thanks Weasel... as embarrassing as it is for me to say this, I guess I must... it only took me about 15 times to succeed. Oh well. I definitely will keep using it... maybe I'll get better at it! Tim - Keeping the flame lit

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41423 04/16/00 10:47 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork T Tim Junior Member Tim Junior Member T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork Okay... Here is what I have on that list of names: Petrus Artedi: Father of Ichthyology George Tirebiter: USC Trojan's mascot Ida Lewis: 14 year old Lime Rock Light keeper Eric Noltkamper: Polka Artist Valentina Tereshkove: Female Soviet cosmonaut Man Ray: Avant guard painter/photographer Gottfried Leibniz: German philospher Andre Breton: French novelist, essayist and poet - father of surrealism. Any of it right? LOL Tim - Keeping the flame lit

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41424 04/16/00 10:58 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork T Tim Junior Member Tim Junior Member T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork I forgot to add the following: Frank DeKova: Video filmographer) Mr. Flattail: Chisholm Trailblazer's mascot (a beaver) Tim - Keeping the flame lit

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41425 04/16/00 03:19 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel Very good Tim. Since its been over a year, for the original post, I'll dribble out a few tidbits on some of these names. Not that any of this stuff can't be found with a bit searching on the Net. Not sure about his life as a videographer (!?), but Frank DeKova played Chief Wild Eagle of the (Where the) Heckowe tribe on the tv show F Troop. He also was a popular bit player on the Untouchables - 'Tough Tony' Lamberto, and had a bit part in a few episodes of one of my childhood TV favorites - Rin Tin Tin. Valentina Tereshkova was not only a female cosmonaut - she was the first women in space and a national hero in the USSR. Manually driving Vostok 6 she orbited the Earth - parachuting out of the capsule at re-entry! Now, comrade, here's your bonus question: Name the group (or the album) immortalizingd Valentina in a song that includes the following lyrics... In Vostok 6 she made her flight Orbiting 3 days and nights 50 times around the world All alone this Russian girl She was born in thirty-seven Twice awarded the Order of Lenin The first female hero of the modern age But for Valentina there was no grand parade Georgie Tirebiter as a USC mascot! Thats a hoot. Wouldn't surprise me, but dig a little deeper til you get to More Science High. Just remember - if the world was flat, all the Chinese would fall off. Rgds, Saint Fontus Obscurantus [This message has been edited by JTimothyA (edited 02-13-2002).]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41426 04/16/00 07:37 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork T Tim Junior Member Tim Junior Member T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 0 NewYork Thanks JTimothy... nothing like being over 365 days late and a dollar short! I will eventually catch up, but then, I'm only a newbie. LOL Tim - Keeping the flame lit...

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41427 02/13/02 04:11 AM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel J JTimothyA OP Saint OP JTimothyA Saint J Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 2,300 planet fresnel surfacing an oldie

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41428 02/13/02 01:54 PM Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,581 West Coast of Michigan! bright eyes Super Wacko bright eyes Super Wacko Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,581 West Coast of Michigan! but goodie! but goodie ! [This message has been edited by bright eyes (edited 02-13-2002).] [This message has been edited by bright eyes (edited 02-13-2002).]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41429 03/15/02 04:16 PM Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 458 Tewksbury, MA 1 1of3trees@prodigy.net Member 1of3trees@prodigy.net Member 1 Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 458 Tewksbury, MA Personally I like my lighthouse icons that Gary Martin did for me and now that the contest results have been published, I can use the colored version of it! Terry (Only my mother, brothers & sisters call me Teresa) Forrest

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41430 03/15/02 10:43 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 3,331 Mason, Ohio Randy Kremer Super Wacko Randy Kremer Super Wacko Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 3,331 Mason, Ohio but goodie! About the best I can do! [This message has been edited by Randy Kremer (edited 03-15-2002).]

Re: Your Signature - fun with fonts #41431 02/17/03 10:50 PM Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 13,047 Arizona Webmaster Saint Webmaster Saint Joined: Dec 1969 Posts: 13,047 Arizona Just floating this old-timer to the top again for the benefit of Newbies. Webmaster@LighthouseKeepers.com

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