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Lighthouse at Pointe Aux Barques #29536 08/24/06 08:20 PM
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I have a mystery. I have 2 ancestors who were shipmen of some kind, Captains say family history. James and Michael Burns.
James dies on June 26, 1864 lost in one of those Great Lakes mishaps, on lake Huron. I only got a few notes on this, it was the brig "Globe" and it went down supposedly near the lighthouse at Pointe Aux Barques, Lake Huron.

I write historical stuff, usually non-fiction. But I'm trying my hand at fiction with historical facts. Anyway I want to use him as a character and I can't seem to find this particular wreck. Any guesses?

Having never been to that part of the country, are there unknown wrecks near the lighthouse? I'm looking at a lot of known mishaps but can't seem to find this particular one.

Any sugestions?


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Cindy,

Being on the NE side of the Michigan thumb, there are plenty of shipwrecks around Point aux Barques and all of Lake Huron. Not too far north, the area around Alpena is referred to as Shipwreck Alley.

Couple of sources you might try are the Museum of the Inland Seas in Vermillion, Ohio, where they have an extensive library; or, the Whitefish Point Light Station where they have quite a bit about shipwrecks as I recall.

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Maybe Terry Pepper's website?


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Terry Pepper is a good suggestion Grace. There was a woman on our HL reunion cruise, Sandy Planisek, who was pretty knowledgeable also. Terry, though is the one I would start with.
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Sandy is super, of course! Have you seen her latest book about the Mackinaw? It is terrific; I will have to post about it in the Reading Room - need to report other stuff in that thread. Falling down on the job but will catch up soon! wink


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Boatnerd has "The Most Complete Listing..."

http://www.boatnerd.com/swayze/shipwreck/

There are several "Globe" ships listed, but none that match the date of loss you have:

Quote:
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GLOBE
Other names : none
Official no. : none
Type at loss : schooner, wood, 2-mast
Build info : 1832, Augustus Jones, Black R., OH
Specs : 84x23x9, 157 t.
Date of loss : 1839, Jun 4
Place of loss : 6 mi S of Detroit
Lake : Detroit R
Type of loss : storm
Loss of life : none
Cargo : a small partial cargo of pig iron
Detail : She was capsized by a squall while bound Buffalo for Detroit. Her crew was taken off by the schooner AGNES BARTON and the steamer DeWITT CLINTON later tried to right her.
She was owned by Pease, et al of Cleveland.
Final enrollment is annotated "lost in 1839"
Sources: nsp,wl

------------------------------------------------------ 1174
GLOBE
Other names : C none
Official no. : none
Type at loss : bark, wood, 3-mast
Build info : 1847, Port Sarnia, Ont.
Specs : 320 t.
Date of loss : 1854, Nov
Place of loss : near Port Bruce, Ont.
Lake : Erie
Type of loss : stranded
Loss of life : ?
Carrying : railroad ties
Detail : She went on a reef and was wrecked in a gale. Brig BURLINGTON went ashore alongside while trying to assist. GLOBE was pounded to pieces by the 28th.
Location also given as Port Burwell.
Owned by M. Cameron of Port Sarnia, Ont.
Sources: sagl,hgl,nsp,dem,rnc

------------------------------------------------------ 3296
GLOBE
Other names : laid down as ODDFELLOW, name changed before launch
Official no. : none
Type at loss : propeller, wood, passenger & package freight as a sidewheeler
Build info : 1847, B. Goodsell or J. Robinson, Trenton, MI
Specs : 251x35x14, 1233 t. [om]
Date of loss : 1860, Nov 6
Place of loss : Chicago Harbor
Lake : Michigan
Type of loss : explosion
Loss of life : 16
Carrying : gen frt
Detail : Her boiler exploded while she was unloading, killing crewmen and dockwallopers alike. Her engine and gear were salvaged the following March.
Rebuilt from a sidewheel steamer to a propeller in 1856.
Sources: is(2-60),lhl,hgl,lc,nsp,eas

------------------------------------------------------ 1175
GLOBE
Other names : none
Official no. : 39339
Type at loss : barge, wood,
Build info : 1846, S. Hubbell, Maumee, OH as a propeller
Specs : 140x25x16, 313 t.
Date of loss : 1873, Oct 21
Place of loss : Pigeon Bay near Pt. Pelee
Lake : Erie
Type of loss : storm
Loss of life : none
Carrying : lumber
Detail : Tow of the steamer T.U. BRADBURY, she broke loose in a gale and was driven ashore, a total loss, along with her towmate DAVID MORRIS (qv).
Had many serious disasters in her career. One sinking at Buffalo in 1849 resulted in a loss of over $100,000.
Burned and sank on Saginaw Bay near Big Charity Island Aug 12, 1863. Salvaged in July of 1867 and converted to a barge.
Sold Canadian in 1856, Canadian registry 1856-60 [C#33471], wrecked on Lake Superior in 1860, recovered by US parties and returned to an American bottom.
Sources: nsp,slh,mmgl,wl,eas,bcw,hcgl

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GLOBE
Other names : none
Official no. : 209121
Type at loss : propeller tug, wood, oil or gas
Build info : 1911, Toledo
Specs : 43x12x4, 23g 19n
Date of loss : 1954, Sep 9
Place of loss : Saginaw Bay, NW of Pte Aux Barques
Lake : Huron
Type of loss : mechanical failure
Loss of life : none of 2
Carrying : none
Detail : Threw a prop through her hull and sank quickly. The tug usually didn't carry a life raft, but one crewman's wife had a premonition and implored the 2-man crew to take a small rowboat on board the day of the loss. Both men took to the temporary boat when the GLOBE sank and were saved.
Owned by Stender Marine of Bay City.
Sources: phone,slh,h,mpl,hcgl
Also the Great Lakes Ship Museum at Whitefish Point in the UP of Michigan.

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Wow you guys are a wealth of information! Jeepers, I wish I would have found your list a year ago!

Thank you so much. There sure were a lot of "Globes" wern't there? I will try contacting the places Dave H. mentioned too and check out that weblink you have. What is the link to Terry Pepper's website?

I did find a ship captain too named James Burns but that is kind of a common name so I got to dig into that more too.

I contacted Judy at the Pointe Aux Barques Lighthouse museum and they are being so kind and are going to look in the lighthouse keepers journals.

I want to try and make it to their festival in August of 2007 and take some pictures and do some research.

Thanks you guys and gals for all your help and I will keep you posted!


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Quote:
Originally posted by cindyahistorian:
What is the link to Terry Pepper's website?
Strangely enough, www.terrypepper.com.

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