HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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In accomplishing my milestone of accumulating all the variations/countries where manufactured for the first 38 lighthouses I have first listed the variations I know for the original 17 lighthouses. I believe there are a total of 135 variations/countries of manufacturer in the first 38 lighthouses produced. Please look them over and if I have missed any please inform me. I will publish HL118 thru HL138 in my follow up post.
HL101 Admiralty Head California w/rod(ality) lastnumber known 250 Canadian w/rod(ality) last number known 2149 Malaysian rod/no rod?(alpy) last number known 2148 Malaysian w/rod(ality) last number known 3791 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL102 Cape Hatteras Mold 1 California w/rod (white tip) last number known 160 California w/rod (green tip) last number known 266 HL102R Cape Hatteras Mold (Rev) Canadian w/rod last number known 2476 Malaysian w/rod last number known 5500 Can/Mal w/rod(reverse stripe) last number known 5500 HL103 West Quoddy Head California w/rod/Pink Door last number known 263 California w/rod last number known 263 Canadian w/rod last number known 2295 Malaysian w/rod last number known 3451 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500 HL104 Sandy Hook California w/rod last number known 399 Canadian w/rod last number known 2799 Malaysian w/rod last number known 3617 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL105 Old Point Loma California w/rod last number known 496 Canadian w/rod last number known 1266 Malaysian w/rod last number known 2228 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500 HL106 North Head California w/rod last number known 229 Canadian w/rod last number known 1477 Malaysian w/rod last number known 3229 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL107 Umpqua River California w/rod last number known 199 Canadian w/rod last number known 1030 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1729 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500 HL108 Burrows Island California w/rod(OR) last number known 61 Canadian w/rod(OR)last number known 550 Canadian w/rod(WA)last number known 1083 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1403 Malaysian no rod last number known 2563
HL109 Cape Blanco California w/rod last number known 258 Canadian w/rod last number known 949 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1822 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL110 Yaquina Head California w/rod last number known 96 Canadian w/rod last number known 757 Malaysian w/rod last number known 3096 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL111 Coquille River California w/rod (3 panel Dr)last number known 252 Canadian w/rod (4 panel Dr)last number known 1138 HL112 Sand Island California w/rod last number known 293 Canadian w/rod (Dk. Brn.)last number known 1133 Canadian w/rod (Med. Brn.)last number known 1133 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1617 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL113 Fort Niagara California w/rod last number known 55 Canadian w/rod last number known 1242 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1800 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL114 Great Captain Island California w/rod (1863 date) last number known 144 Canadian w/rod (1863 date) last number known 536 Malaysian w/rod (1868 date)last number known 1657 Malaysian no rod(1868 date)last number known 5500
HL115 St. George’s Reef California w/rod last number known 250 Canadian w/rod last number known 1240 Malaysian w/rod last number known 2970 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL116 Castle Hill California w/rod last number known 250 Canadian w/rod last number known 1176 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1464 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL117 Boston Harbor California w/rod last number known 260 Canadian w/rod last number known 1743 Malaysian w/rod last number known 2740 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/06/12 05:40 PM
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In accomplishing my milestone of accumulating all the variations/countries where manufactured of the first 38 lighthouses, I have now listed the HL118 thru HL138 lighthouses. I believe there are a total of 135 variations/countries of manufacturer in the first 38 lighthouses produced. Please look them over and if I have missed any please let me know. I listed the original 17 in my previous post.
HL118 Old Mackinac Point Canadian w/rod last number known 1743 Malaysian w/rod last number known 2820 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL119 Cana Island Canadian w/rod last number known 274 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1895 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL120 Grosse Point Canadian w/rod (Gray Felt)last number known 1333 Canadian w/rod (Grn. Felt)last number known 1333 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1718 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL121 Marblehead Canadian w/rod last number known 1378 Malaysian w/rod last number known 2214 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL122 Buffalo Canadian w/rod last number known 1079 Malaysian w/rod last number known 1639 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL123 Michigan City (East Pier) Canadian w/rod (green/gray water) last number known 425 Malaysian w/rod (green water) last number known 1634 Malaysian no rod (blue water) last number known 5500
HL124 Split Rock Canadian w/rod(MI)last number known 150 Canadian w/rod(M^ "Upside Down V")last number known 308 Canadian w/rod(MN)last number known 1358 Malaysian w/rod last number known 2716 Malaysian no rod last number known 5500
HL125 Portland Head Canadian last number known 1036 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL126 Nauset Beach Canadian last number known 1195 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL127 Whaleback Light Canadian last number known 883 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL128 Southeast Block Island Canadian last number known 980 Malaysian (Dk. Foundation)last number known 5500 Malaysian (Lt. Foundation)last number known 5500
HL129 New London Ledge Canadian w/rod/teal. water last number known 1250 Canadian w/rod/grn. water last number known 1250 Malaysian w/rod/grn. water last number known 1484 Malaysian no rod/grn. water last number known 2550 Malaysian no rod/teal water last number known 2550 Malaysian no rod/blue water last number known 5500
HL130 Portland Breakwater Canadian last number known 1087 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL131 Minots Ledge Canadian /green roof/gray below lantern room/black ladder/gray below water line/green water last number known 987 Malaysian /blue roof/black below lantern room/black ladder/black below water line/green water last number known 1715 Malaysian /green roof/black below lantern room/green ladder/black below water line/green water last number known 1840 Malaysian /green roof/black below lantern room/der/half black below water line/green water/last number known 1840 Malaysian /green roof/black below lantern room/green ladder/black below water line/blue water/last number known 2971 Malaysian/green roof/natural brick below lantern room/Green ladder/black below water line/blue water/last number known 5500
HL132 Ponce De Leon Canadian last number known 304 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL133 Tybee Island Canadian last number known 432 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL134 Key West Canadian (Teal Grn Door.)last number known 729 Malaysian (Blue Door.)last number known 5500 Malaysian (Teal Grn Door.)last number known 5500
HL135 Ocracoke Island Canadian last number known 351 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL136 Hilton Head (Sea Pines) Canadian last number known 676 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL137 St. Simons Island Canadian last number known 271 Malaysian last number known 5500
HL138 St. Augustine Canadian last number known 28 Malaysian (brown roof)last number known 5500 Malaysian (red roof)last number known 5500
Last edited by flacoastie; 06/09/12 05:08 PM. Reason: Correct Split Rock S/Ns
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/07/12 03:02 PM
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Great list, Rich. You may find some info you don't have in the "Greenbook" Guide to Harbour Lights. Some of their 'last known' numbers may be different. You have some interesting things listed. Thanks for that.
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/07/12 05:21 PM
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Rich The admiralpy) is a Malaysian with no lightning rod. There are only two known and mine is number 2123
DANIEL
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/07/12 06:29 PM
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Daniel - I changed the serial number range for the "alpy" spelling range to 2148 (pictured in Collector's Guide) and also indicated "rod/no rod?" because the range of serial numbers indicates it should have a rod even though yours doesn't. I wonder if the owner of S/N 2148 would respond to the question of it having a rod or no rod.
Angels Gate - the "last known number" in the Greenbook guide was compiled during 1997 and since that time many additional numbers have been verified by both the Forum members in quite a few postings on each individual lighthouse (no longer available for viewing at this time) and by several forum members viewing these lighthouses on Ebay. I'm sure that many of these numbers may be incorrect but they are certainly more correct than the Greenbook listed 15 years ago.
If anyone has any of the first 38 lighthouses and can verify that there is a higher number known, please let me know and I will make the change.
Rich
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/07/12 08:27 PM
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2123 to 2156 are Malaysian and have no rod and are correctly spelled or in two cases have a “P” where the”T” should be. I have personally logged five admiralty heads in this number range. Following the numbering sequence these should be miss-spelled Canadian made, but they are not.
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/09/12 01:46 AM
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No mention of the water color change in HL123 Michigan City ?
Also no mention of the HL 114 Great Captin Island, Ct. date over the door variation (1863 date)(1868 date)
Also, I have a Canadian - HL 103 West Quoddy, Me # 2295 W/rod
And, HL136 Hilton Head (Sea Pines) Canadian #676
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/09/12 10:16 AM
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Mark - Thanks for your input. I completely forgot to enter the Michigan City water colors and the dates above the door on Great Captain Island. I have corrected the lists and have also added your serial numbers to the last known number in my list.
By the time I get people's inputs this list should be fairly accurate.
Rich
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/09/12 04:00 PM
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"More correct", Rich? I always thought a thing was either correct or not. And if all you are shooting for is "fairly accurate" there is no point in being nasty with anyone who dares a suggestion! Even though it isn't current, the Green Book does have some good information in it (for those of us who DON'T already know it all).
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/09/12 04:29 PM
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Rich you got the Split rock variation backwards. MI starts with the number 11 and stops somewhere around 150. Then HL caught the mistake and started fixing them by adding a backslash to the I to try and make it look like a “N”. Well they do not look like a “N” but an upside down “v” I have a #308 upside down “V”
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/09/12 05:05 PM
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Angel Gate - I got most of my information from the Greenbook, Collector's Guide, Jim Rutherford's 5 books and The Collector's Value Guide along with Forum member's input and Ebay along with the serial numbers from my collection. I also got quite a bit of this information from Daniel. He and I talk on a weekly basis about Harbour Lights and I value his knowledge on the subject. I reread my response to your earlier post I feel that I was in no way being nasty and I'm sorry you took it that way. My appologies to you. I made this list to help others that haven't been collecting as long as many of us have. I welcome corrections and additions and will try and make this list as "ACCURATE and CORRECT" as possible (potatoe vs potatoe) so to speak.
Rich
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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture
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06/19/12 11:42 AM
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I haven't heard from too many members on this list, but, what I have heard is all GOOD information. Are there any other additions, corrections or changes I should add to this list?
Rich
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