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HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture #207138 06/06/12 04:13 PM
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In accomplishing my milestone of accumulating all the variations/countries where manufactured for the first 38 lighthouses I have first listed the variations I know for the original 17 lighthouses. I believe there are a total of 135 variations/countries of manufacturer in the first 38 lighthouses produced. Please look them over and if I have missed any please inform me. I will publish HL118 thru HL138 in my follow up post.


HL101 Admiralty Head
California w/rod(ality) lastnumber known 250
Canadian w/rod(ality) last number known 2149
Malaysian rod/no rod?(alpy) last number known 2148
Malaysian w/rod(ality) last number known 3791
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL102 Cape Hatteras Mold 1
California w/rod (white tip) last number known 160
California w/rod (green tip) last number known 266

HL102R Cape Hatteras Mold (Rev)
Canadian w/rod last number known 2476
Malaysian w/rod last number known 5500
Can/Mal w/rod(reverse stripe) last number known 5500

HL103 West Quoddy Head
California w/rod/Pink Door last number known 263
California w/rod last number known 263
Canadian w/rod last number known 2295
Malaysian w/rod last number known 3451
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL104 Sandy Hook
California w/rod last number known 399
Canadian w/rod last number known 2799
Malaysian w/rod last number known 3617
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL105 Old Point Loma
California w/rod last number known 496
Canadian w/rod last number known 1266
Malaysian w/rod last number known 2228
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL106 North Head
California w/rod last number known 229
Canadian w/rod last number known 1477
Malaysian w/rod last number known 3229
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL107 Umpqua River
California w/rod last number known 199
Canadian w/rod last number known 1030
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1729
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL108 Burrows Island
California w/rod(OR) last number known 61
Canadian w/rod(OR)last number known 550
Canadian w/rod(WA)last number known 1083
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1403
Malaysian no rod last number known 2563

HL109 Cape Blanco
California w/rod last number known 258
Canadian w/rod last number known 949
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1822
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL110 Yaquina Head
California w/rod last number known 96
Canadian w/rod last number known 757
Malaysian w/rod last number known 3096
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL111 Coquille River
California w/rod (3 panel Dr)last number known 252
Canadian w/rod (4 panel Dr)last number known 1138

HL112 Sand Island
California w/rod last number known 293
Canadian w/rod (Dk. Brn.)last number known 1133
Canadian w/rod (Med. Brn.)last number known 1133
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1617
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL113 Fort Niagara
California w/rod last number known 55
Canadian w/rod last number known 1242
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1800
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL114 Great Captain Island
California w/rod (1863 date) last number known 144
Canadian w/rod (1863 date) last number known 536
Malaysian w/rod (1868 date)last number known 1657
Malaysian no rod(1868 date)last number known 5500

HL115 St. George’s Reef
California w/rod last number known 250
Canadian w/rod last number known 1240
Malaysian w/rod last number known 2970
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL116 Castle Hill
California w/rod last number known 250
Canadian w/rod last number known 1176
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1464
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL117 Boston Harbor
California w/rod last number known 260
Canadian w/rod last number known 1743
Malaysian w/rod last number known 2740
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500






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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207141 06/06/12 05:40 PM
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In accomplishing my milestone of accumulating all the variations/countries where manufactured of the first 38 lighthouses, I have now listed the HL118 thru HL138 lighthouses. I believe there are a total of 135 variations/countries of manufacturer in the first 38 lighthouses produced. Please look them over and if I have missed any please let me know. I listed the original 17 in my previous post.


HL118 Old Mackinac Point
Canadian w/rod last number known 1743
Malaysian w/rod last number known 2820
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL119 Cana Island
Canadian w/rod last number known 274
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1895
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL120 Grosse Point
Canadian w/rod (Gray Felt)last number known 1333
Canadian w/rod (Grn. Felt)last number known 1333
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1718
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL121 Marblehead
Canadian w/rod last number known 1378
Malaysian w/rod last number known 2214
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL122 Buffalo
Canadian w/rod last number known 1079
Malaysian w/rod last number known 1639
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL123 Michigan City (East Pier)
Canadian w/rod (green/gray water) last number known 425
Malaysian w/rod (green water) last number known 1634
Malaysian no rod (blue water) last number known 5500

HL124 Split Rock
Canadian w/rod(MI)last number known 150
Canadian w/rod(M^ "Upside Down V")last number known 308
Canadian w/rod(MN)last number known 1358
Malaysian w/rod last number known 2716
Malaysian no rod last number known 5500

HL125 Portland Head
Canadian last number known 1036
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL126 Nauset Beach
Canadian last number known 1195
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL127 Whaleback Light
Canadian last number known 883
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL128 Southeast Block Island
Canadian last number known 980
Malaysian (Dk. Foundation)last number known 5500
Malaysian (Lt. Foundation)last number known 5500

HL129 New London Ledge
Canadian w/rod/teal. water last number known 1250
Canadian w/rod/grn. water last number known 1250
Malaysian w/rod/grn. water last number known 1484
Malaysian no rod/grn. water last number known 2550
Malaysian no rod/teal water last number known 2550
Malaysian no rod/blue water last number known 5500

HL130 Portland Breakwater
Canadian last number known 1087
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL131 Minots Ledge
Canadian /green roof/gray below lantern room/black ladder/gray below water line/green water last number known 987
Malaysian /blue roof/black below lantern room/black ladder/black below water line/green water last number known 1715
Malaysian /green roof/black below lantern room/green ladder/black below water line/green water last number known 1840
Malaysian /green roof/black below lantern room/der/half black below water line/green water/last number known 1840
Malaysian /green roof/black below lantern room/green ladder/black below water line/blue water/last number known 2971
Malaysian/green roof/natural brick below lantern room/Green ladder/black below water line/blue water/last number known 5500

HL132 Ponce De Leon
Canadian last number known 304
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL133 Tybee Island
Canadian last number known 432
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL134 Key West
Canadian (Teal Grn Door.)last number known 729
Malaysian (Blue Door.)last number known 5500
Malaysian (Teal Grn Door.)last number known 5500

HL135 Ocracoke Island
Canadian last number known 351
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL136 Hilton Head (Sea Pines)
Canadian last number known 676
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL137 St. Simons Island
Canadian last number known 271
Malaysian last number known 5500

HL138 St. Augustine
Canadian last number known 28
Malaysian (brown roof)last number known 5500
Malaysian (red roof)last number known 5500

Last edited by flacoastie; 06/09/12 05:08 PM. Reason: Correct Split Rock S/Ns

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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207145 06/07/12 03:02 PM
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Great list, Rich. You may find some info you don't have in the "Greenbook" Guide to Harbour Lights. Some of their 'last known' numbers may be different. You have some interesting things listed. Thanks for that.


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207147 06/07/12 05:21 PM
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The admiralpy) is a Malaysian with no lightning rod. There are only two known and mine is number 2123


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207148 06/07/12 06:29 PM
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Daniel - I changed the serial number range for the "alpy" spelling range to 2148 (pictured in Collector's Guide) and also indicated "rod/no rod?" because the range of serial numbers indicates it should have a rod even though yours doesn't. I wonder if the owner of S/N 2148 would respond to the question of it having a rod or no rod.

Angels Gate - the "last known number" in the Greenbook guide was compiled during 1997 and since that time many additional numbers have been verified by both the Forum members in quite a few postings on each individual lighthouse (no longer available for viewing at this time) and by several forum members viewing these lighthouses on Ebay. I'm sure that many of these numbers may be incorrect but they are certainly more correct than the Greenbook listed 15 years ago.

If anyone has any of the first 38 lighthouses and can verify that there is a higher number known, please let me know and I will make the change.


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207150 06/07/12 08:27 PM
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2123 to 2156 are Malaysian and have no rod and are correctly spelled or in two cases have a “P” where the”T” should be. I have personally logged five admiralty heads in this number range. Following the numbering sequence these should be miss-spelled Canadian made, but they are not.


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207163 06/09/12 01:46 AM
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No mention of the water color change in HL123 Michigan City ?

Also no mention of the HL 114 Great Captin Island, Ct. date over the door variation (1863 date)(1868 date)

Also, I have a Canadian - HL 103 West Quoddy, Me # 2295 W/rod

And, HL136 Hilton Head (Sea Pines) Canadian #676

Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207166 06/09/12 10:16 AM
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Mark - Thanks for your input. I completely forgot to enter the Michigan City water colors and the dates above the door on Great Captain Island. I have corrected the lists and have also added your serial numbers to the last known number in my list.

By the time I get people's inputs this list should be fairly accurate.


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207171 06/09/12 04:00 PM
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"More correct", Rich? I always thought a thing was either correct or not. And if all you are shooting for is "fairly accurate" there is no point in being nasty with anyone who dares a suggestion! Even though it isn't current, the Green Book does have some good information in it (for those of us who DON'T already know it all).


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207172 06/09/12 04:29 PM
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Rich you got the Split rock variation backwards.
MI starts with the number 11 and stops somewhere around 150.
Then HL caught the mistake and started fixing them by adding a backslash to the I to try and make it look like a “N”. Well they do not look like a “N” but an upside down “v”
I have a #308 upside down “V”


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207174 06/09/12 05:05 PM
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Angel Gate - I got most of my information from the Greenbook, Collector's Guide, Jim Rutherford's 5 books and The Collector's Value Guide along with Forum member's input and Ebay along with the serial numbers from my collection. I also got quite a bit of this information from Daniel. He and I talk on a weekly basis about Harbour Lights and I value his knowledge on the subject. I reread my response to your earlier post I feel that I was in no way being nasty and I'm sorry you took it that way. My appologies to you. I made this list to help others that haven't been collecting as long as many of us have. I welcome corrections and additions and will try and make this list as "ACCURATE and CORRECT" as possible (potatoe vs potatoe) so to speak.


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Re: HL101 thru HL138 Variations/Countries of Manufacture [Re: flacoastie] #207265 06/19/12 11:42 AM
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I haven't heard from too many members on this list, but, what I have heard is all GOOD information. Are there any other additions, corrections or changes I should add to this list?


Rich

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