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1995 stamp set question

Posted By: RezmanDale

1995 stamp set question - 10/28/99 09:18 AM

This has probably been discussed in another forum in the past but I couldn't find anything on it with the search function.

I recently found a complete stamp set at a dealer but noticed that the thirty mile point was not #184 but was labeled both on the box and on the sticker on the bottom of the piece with the number 414. According to my official Harbour Lights List 414 is Barnagat NJ.

Is this a unique error or were all of the thirty mile point stamp series pieces numbered 414?

Anyone have any input?

Dale
Posted By: WackoPaul

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/28/99 02:19 PM

Once again since this question comes up a lot, I thought I would just repost John's post, assisted by Tim on the graph that answers most of the questions.

Quote:
In December 1995, a series of Great Lakes lighthouses were introduced as a 'Stamp Set', matching the five lighthouses featured on a set of US postage stamps. Two of these five had already been done as limited editions (Marblehead OH and Split Rock MN) - but these were about to retire.

Harbour Lights decided to make all five of the 'Stamp Series' lighthouses open editions. 

The 1996 introductions then in production would include both open and limited editions -- and some of the open editions were lighthouses that had not been previously issued as limited editions.

Collectors began to complain - "Harbour Lights should not issue any lighthouse as an 'open edition' that had not previously been issued as a retired edition and retired."

The compaints grew and Harbour Lights listened. They anounced that the collectors' demands would become the rule. GLOW open edition lighthouses would only include those items that had been limited editions and retired.

That decision would be retroactive. It would cover the three Stamp Series lighthouses issued in 1995 and the 4 1996 GLOW lighthouses that had already been released, plus 2 that were already in production but not yet shipped (Peggy's Cove and Fire Island - which do NOT have edition sizes on their flags but were never issued with a "4XX" product number.)

The old collectors were happy - but new collectors were confused. They were confused because they were seeing lighthouses without edition sizes on the flags and some with serial numbers that began with letters, and eventually what looked like the same lighthouse with different product numbers.

And they would eventually be confused because Harbour Lights chose to re-use the 400 series product numbers that were originally assigned to the GLOW-turned-limited edition lighthouses.

So 410 (Spectacle Reef) became Cape Neddick GLOW
411 (St. Joseph) became St. Augustine GLOW
405 (Cape Lookout) became Montauk GLOW (Correction by Jim Chesher of John's one misteak)
406 (Fire Island) became New London Ledge GLOW
407 (Alcatraz) became Holland GLOW
417 (Mukilteo) became Alcatraz GLOW



Orig
#
New # Name A# B# No
Letter
Intro Sold
Out
Edition
410 182 Spectacle Reef MI A1-A2752 B1-B1382 ?-1103-? 12/95 6/97 9,500
414 184 Thirty Mile Point NY A1-A2752 B1-B0858 12/95 6/97 9,500
411 183 St. Joseph North Pier MI A1-A7426 B1-B0262 ?-1919-? 12/95 6/97 9,500
405 175 Cape Lookout NC A1-A3357 ?? 2/96 7/97 9,500
406 176 Fire Island NY A1-A3700 ?? 3/96 9,500
407 177 Alcatraz CA A1-A3014 ?? 3/96 7/96 9,500
417 178 Mukilteo WA A1-A582 ?? ?-2533-3153-? 4/96 9,500


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[This message has been edited by engbrady (edited 10-29-99).]
Posted By: RezmanDale

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/28/99 06:21 PM

Thanks Paul;

I tried the search for any forum whti thiry mile point but after reading many posts did not find an answer. Thanks for taking the time to repost thatinformation.

Dale
Posted By: Webmaster

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 12:19 AM

This information is available at:

http://www.harbourlights.com/modifications/pages/open2limited.htm
Posted By: Jim Chesher

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 02:45 AM

I certainly hate to question sources such as John and Paul but please correct me if I am wrong but my records show that the original HL-405(Cape Lookout) actually became Montauk, NY GLOW vice Ponce De Leon GLOW. Ponce De Leon GLOW is actually HL-408.
Jim
Posted By: WackoPaul

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 04:08 AM

Quote:
HL-405(Cape Lookout) actually became Montauk


You are right Jim and I put it in quotes, which means it is all on John. Now the fact that I just noticed that I left a letter out of the word... 'question' was all on me. Don't bother looking for it as I will have corrected my spelling by the time you read this.

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Posted By: Webmaster

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 07:37 AM

What? This is the kind of gratitude I get? Enlightening the newbies with blood, sweat and tears but make just ONE misteak and...
Posted By: Rod Watson

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 02:20 PM

Better make that TWO "Misteaks". LOL
Posted By: RezmanDale

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 05:07 PM

Considering the time of the post 1:37AM I think we can let the second "misteak" slip.


Thanks everyone for the help.
Dale
Posted By: WackoPaul

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/29/99 06:52 PM

I do believe the second misteak was done on porpoise.

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Posted By: Webmaster

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 10/30/99 02:32 AM

Write you are, Paul...

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I really wasn't up that late; the time of posting is shown in Eastern Time; I'm 3 hours earlier in Mountain Standard Time.
Posted By: WackoPaul

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 01/12/01 06:56 AM

To bring this thread back to the top for Gem!

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Posted By: Bob M

Re: 1995 stamp set question - 01/12/01 02:56 PM

Don't blame me....I told you UBB offers a spell check!

Bob
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