Personally I feel that this Forum has absolutely nothing to be gained by these discussions. Bob placed a link to vote yes or no about the pledge. I saw no harm in that, however the discussion began to change to a debate over freedom of speach, do you believe in god, etc........... I know there was more to it than that but I am keeping it simple. There are only a few of us that can remove posts.

1. The Originator
2. The Webmaster
3. The Saints and Cruise Directors

I think the debate had the potential to upset people over some very dear beliefs. This is not what this Forum is about. If One of the 3 so choose to delete this thread then I personally can live with it. No reason to defend anything. I presume their reason was simply looking out for the good of the forum. If this Forum wants more of an explanation I'm not sure of it's motive or intent.