And you can't always trust everyone on The Trading Post to be forthcoming about the condition of their lights - especially the older lights. If you buy from Randy K. or Bob M. or some of the other longtime CF members, you know you're getting your money's worth. And look at how many people have been burned buying through ebay? The thrill is definitely gone; I've even considered quitting a couple of times. Then HL does something that inspires me and I settle back down for a while.